Dual Pin brakes on rear

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  • Joe Lucia (12484)
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 42936

    #16
    Re: Dual Pin brakes on rear - not factory

    Mike----

    I never said that you were saying that the dual pin rear calipers were factory installed. However, someone might infer that they were, in some way or another, originally installed. I wanted to make it very clear that they were not.

    The GM factory J-56 brake system was not necessarily the "ultimate" brake system for a Corvette and it was certainly not advertised by GM as such. It was simply a "better than stock" performing brake system. For some forms of competition it might be quite adequate; for others it certainly wasn't adequate. An important consideration here is that the J-56 system that GM offered had to be 100% ok for street operation. All the cars that GM sold to the general public had to be, more-or-less, suitable for street use, even before there were laws which heavily dictated this. So, systems which were suitable for all out racing might not be suitable, at all, for street use. Generally, the more severe the racing application, the less suitable that some system designed for it is going to be for the street.

    So, the factory J-56 system was simply a braking system "between" a stock, street system and a system for all-out racing. GM offered the stock system, and the J-56 system. If you wanted or needed something beyond the capabilities of J-56 you had to come up with it yourself from another source.

    Could GM have "upgraded" the J-56 system by using the dual pin style calipers at the rear in conjunction with the same pads as used for the front? Yes, they could have. In fact, they could have done it quite inexpensively and quite easily. I'm sure that "crossed someone's mind". However, my guess is that they felt that the system as it was constituted for so many years represented the best "balance", etc. of what they were trying to offer in a system suitable for street operation.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Bob Radke

      #17
      Re: Another curiousity

      That crew cab car hauler is quite the unique piece. Tom still has the truck and I am thinking about cleaning it up and putting my finished L88 back up on it for a picture. The truck has a 283 in it, and was supposedly a custom built rig for AIR, using 2 extra front doors for the rear doors. It is still blue and runs. I like how the front bumper of the Corvette is about 2 inches from the rear window on the cab. That picture has a lot going on in it. Fred Gledhill and his son Bob are at the back of the 44 car, and Bob MacDonald is behind it.

      As for the brakes and rear end caps, Guldstrand was playing with different combinations, and they were swapping rear ends a lot. I asked Tom about the U-bolt caps on the rear end and they were some heavy duty units they were trying out so that they could swap rear ends quickly. They burned up a number of rear ends during the Daytona race and that is primarily what led to the cars not doing well there. Dick had lowered the cars for more speed, and this didn't help the rear end cooling issue. The AIR team did not have a lot of time to get these cars modified and ready to go to Daytona; from the first week of December 67 to driver testing on the 3rd week of January. I got a lot of information from the original notebooks used by Dick during the era when all these car modifications were being done for racing. Neat stuff.

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      • Howard Nardick

        #18
        Re: "thicker pads"

        Used on the front calipers the thicker "L" shaped double pin pad used with the wider than stock split caliper was a Guldstrand trick still widely used today in vintage racing, some guys weld a piece of key stock to a Wilwood 6 piston pad, I have "L" shaped pads custom made with my desired thickness.....HN

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