C1 Hood blackout break line....

[Kevin Riel]

I know this topic has been covered before, and I searched the archives and found references to this, but I need clarification. Did the factory mask that was used to black out the inside of the hood on a C1 make the start of the black on the corner that has an inside radius if you start with the hood upside down and follow towards the center of the hood, or would it be the second corner which would be an outside radius? From earlier posts, it appears to be the first corner (inside radius). Sorry I'm so dense.....

Kevin Riel
59 230 hp

[Wayne P.]

Re: C1 Hood blackout break line....

I must be dense, because I don't follow you. The flat portion is body color. The raised portion and inside it are black.

[Dennis C.]

Oversimplification...

... put the hood on. Paint the body color. Put a mask on the underhood part to spray the blackout. When you get to the forward part of the hood, the blackout will "play out" in a rather non-descript manner as it approaches the front corner of the hood on both sides. If you do it like they did it, everything works pretty well.

[Mike E.]

Re: Oversimplification...

Another attempt to explain, even though the previous ones were adequate:
Open the hood and prop it up.
Imagine them putting a u-shaped mask on it as it is open--with the mask only covering the outer lip of the underside of the hood at the top and both sides.
At the bottom (by the radiator), because the mask is u-shaped, there is black-out paint on the uncovered bottom lip of the underside.

[Garry Barnes]

Re: Oversimplification...

Would someone be willing to post a picture of an original or correctly reproduced hood blackout? Thanks.

[Ted S.]

Nose View

Here's a picture of the front of a hood that I believe is still has the original blackout. If you look at this picture and the next one you'll notice alot more overspray at the nose on the driver's side verses the passenger side. Other than the nose, the black out line follows the raised portion of the hood. I can provide other pictures if needed. Hope this helps, Ted

[Ted S.]

Second shot of blackout.........

.... Again hope this helps. Aaaannnnnndddd thanks to Rob for the weblogs on the C1 registry. It gave me a place to host the pics.

[Garry Barnes]

Re: Second shot of blackout.........

Ted,
First off. thanks for taking the time to take the pictures. I have two questions:
1. my e-mail says that you posted three pictures, but I only see two on the tech board.
2. when looking at the side view of the hood- starting with the horizontal surface that is painted body color, then the surface that goes vertical (the sides that are about 1-1 1/4" high) that goes to the larger blacked out horizontal surface (or underside of the hood)- are these sides painted black and is the edge between these sides and the body color surface "soft" or "sharp edged"? I guess the picture that would show what I want to know would be one that is aligned directly down that line between the blackout and the body color running front to back.
Sorry to be so long with this. Thanks.
Garry

[Garry Barnes]

Re: Nose View

Ted, I am looking at it much closer now and I think I have the answers to my questions. Thanks.
Garry

[Ted S.]

Re: Second shot of blackout.........

Garry, I posted the first one at the C1 registry but had it under my car. I figured it would be better under a weblog at the C1 registry so I reposted it there. Then I deleted the first message I posted to the NCRS site. That's why it looked like three shots were posted.

On the sides some of the blackout has come off so the body color is showing through so it's a little hard to see all of the line from the pics. The line runs pretty consistently along the flat surface indicating all of the raised portion would be black other than the front edge. Along the line it is fairly distinct but you can't "feel" the line like you would with a taped edge. A friend of mine has a body shop and the use a material that looks like backer rod for caulking (round foam flexible rod) that has tape like adhesive on it. It would probably work good at duplicating the line. I can get a close up which may help a little or if another shot would help let me know what you'd like to see.

[Garry Barnes]

Re: Second shot of blackout.........

Ted,
I am clear now on this process. There is a picture of a C1 hood edge in Nolands Restoration book that makes it look as though the sides that are in question did not get shot with black out. I think that it is just a poor photo. That is what has always bothered me about the proper way to do the hood black out. Thanks again for all of your efforts.
Garry