1967 Window Crank Handles

[Rick S.]

I am looking to replace the black window crank handles on my 67 roadster. I have been told that the repo handles don't fit tight to the door panel, so I am looking for NOS or good used originals. I checked the archives and I am unable locate any part numbers or info to assist in my search. Anyone who could help me in my search for the correct part numbers or a someone to contact would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Rick

[Rick S.]

Addendum

I located a pair on Ebay that lists a pair for 68-75 GM products and the seller indicates the part numbers as 20348200. The photos look similiar to the ones from my car.

Rick

[Terry F.]

Re: 1967 Window Crank Handles

Go to ebay and watch for 67 chevrolet window cranks. I bet they are the same for passenger cars. Just make sure they have the short/narrow knob style. I have seen them there before. Terry

[Dick W.]

Re: Addendum

Rick these are the handles that GM has serviced for the 67 to 79 manual window cars. Joe Lucia can advise on the availability from GM. I am not positive but it seems that there was a difference in the original handles and the replacements. It has been about 10 years since I restored a mid year. I am thinking that I used the knobs off the replacements and put them on the 67 handles. Drilled the head off the rivet retaining the knob on the new handle, drilled and tapped the knob and installed on the old handle.

[Stephen L.]

Re: 1967 Window Crank Handles

The window crank handles for the wing vent and window are unique to 67. Although they fit the shaft, the 68 & up have a different knob and arm.

The knobs are the same thru the GM lines for 67, BUT, the arms are unique for a Corvette. The angle of the arm is different by approximately 3/8 inch. From the top they look alike... until you make the angle comparison.

If you are looking for correct replacements you need to look for casting #5719477 on the window arm & 5719481 on the wing vent arm.

To my knowledge the '67 cranks are not being reproduced.....

[Joe L.]

Re: Addendum

Dick and Rick-----

The GM #20348200 is, indeed, a SERVICE replacement window crank handle applicable to 67-79 Corvettes. It's the "latest and greatest" iteration of the 67-79 window crank handle and it's been around for over 20 years. It is available from GM to this very day for about 26 bucks, GM list. This handle has a black knob. The configuration of the knob and arm are similar to those used for 1967, but it's not exactly the same. There are subtle differences in the configuration of the knob and the arm has some less subtle differences.

In design, it's FAR improved from the design used for 67 to about 76 (or, later). The method of attachment of the knob to the arm is FAR more durable than the original style and the knob rotates on the arm with far greater "glide" and ease. However, the configuration makes it difficult, or impossible, to use the arm, minus the knob, to "build up" a handle assembly more correct for earlier cars.

The handles used for 1967 (and, 1968) had interior color-coded knobs attached to them. As such, there were originally seperate part numbers for each one and most were once-upon-a-time available in SERVICE. They've been gone for a LONG time, though----like about 35 years.

The vent window handles were similar, but, of course, shorter, than the side window handles and had similarly colored knobs.

The 67 Corvette handles were originally unique to Corvettes. In later SERVICE, the handles were "consolidated" in one that fits passenger cars and Corvettes and that's the one still available today.

The original handles were not very durable, at all. The knob-to-arm articulation was weak and wore out fairly quickly. Then, the knob got hard to turn, making window roll-down and up very difficult. Finally, the knob broke off and was not re-attachable.

If you can find some arms with the casting numbers that Steve mentioned (which are the 67 Corvette casting numbers for the crank arms), you can make up very similar-to-original handles using "knob repair kits" found in the Help! section of most auto parts stores. Purchase the clear ones and dye them using interior dye. A few applications of the appropriate interior dye, wiping the knob a few minutes after each application will give you a pretty good "facsimile" of the original knobs. Not exact, mind you, but close. The knobs won't be very durable, though, since these repair kits are designed for real "low budget" auto repairs and use an axle which is worse than the original design handles of the 60s. But, I'd use these just for "show" and "judging" events. Put the 20348200 on the car for everything else.

[Peter L.]

Re: 1967 Window Crank Handles

Rick - The good news is that you're looking for '67 handles w/ black knobs so Terry's bet is a good one. My experience is that many of the other '67 handles are different between the passenger car and the Corvette because of the differences in the interior colors; but the handles w/ the black knobs sure look to be the same. Pete

[Joe L.]

Re: 1967 Window Crank Handles

Pete-----

Strangely enough, GM never catalogued in SERVICE a main window crank handle for 1967 Corvettes with a black knob. However, the window crank handle for 1967 passenger cars, which was not catalogued as being also applicable to Corvettes, was GM #7680653. If this handle has the same casting number as the Corvette handle (the numbers that Steve mentioned), then I'd say that the passenger car and Corvette were the same for the black knob handle.

[Peter L.]

Re: 1967 Window Crank Handles

Joe - Interesting note. I also found it strange also that the P&A30 Catalog only showed the '67 black knob window crank handle application to the 67 PASS; but I've looked and collected numerous '67 black knob window window cranks from swap meets and junkyards and they all look the same. So if one gets a pair and puts them on the car, they should work and look just fine. Appears to be an oversight in the P&A, which as we all know does happen. Pete

[Peter L.]

Re: 1967 Window Crank Handles

Joe - Good News on the '67 black knob window crank handle. Did a little more checking and EUREKA, the '67 AIM calls for p/n 7680653 (UPC1 DOORS, K15) for the STD interior which is black. This is the same p/n listed in the 1967 Chevrolet P&A 30 Catalog so everything is good to go. Pete

[Joe L.]

Re: 1967 Window Crank Handles

Pete-----

I never bothered to check the 67 AIM because I figured that it would just say "chart" and then give the part number for the chart used to determine the correct part number for the window crank based on interior color.

[Paul L.]

Re: 1967 Window Crank Handles

I junked the GM repros and the Paragon repros. They just do not fit.

[Stephen L.]

Re: 1967 Window Crank Handles

Can you explain "what" didn't fit about them????

[Rick S.]

Re: 1967 Window Crank Handles

Thanks to everyone for your help.

Rick

[Terry F.]

Re: 1967 Window Crank Handles

Joe, are the crank handles the same for 67 and 68 except for the knob configuration? Thanks in advance, Terry