Need '66 interior paint code for black trim

[Gary B.]

Can anyone tell me if the paint code for the black gloss paint on the interior trim that surrounds, for example, the side window on my '66 coupe is the same as Tuxedo exterior code, i.e., Ditzler DD-9300, R-M A-946, DUPONT 88-L?

Or was the interior gloss black a different code from Tuxedo exterior and, if so, what's the code?

Thanks,

Gary

[Wayne M.]

Here's what my 1965 Dupont color sheets show

...and I figure black is black. My '70 Corvette P&A 30B gives the RM, Ditzler and Lucite exterior codes you posted, for '64 thru '69 black lacqueur. My 1965 Dupont color chip sheets give:

Exterior Lucite code "88" (I suppose GM adds "L" for lacquer).

Interior codes: (2 codes are given, maybe for differing degrees of sheen)
- 4428L Black Flat, and 4466L Black Flat

[Gary B.]

I think the interior sheen is gloss...

Wayne,

Neither of the two codes you list for the interior sound correct since both refer to a flat sheen. I'm pretty sure the trim around part of the coupe side window is gloss, but I'll take a closer look when I get home tonight. In the end, I think you might be right that black is black and the exterior black might be what I need.

Gary

[bill jackson]

Re: I think the interior sheen is gloss...

I think you need the 9300 Lacquer. It is the same as exterior but unbuffed which gives it a slight sheen. Compare to an unbuffed area like door jam.

[Gary B.]

Thanks BIll

Bill,

As you say, the door jams on my car are close to flat or semi-flat rally red, but my recollection is that the upper door window trim is closer to gloss black, but I'll take another look tonight to see how glossy it really is.

Gary

[Loren L.]

My DuPont information does NOT call

out ANY "flat " or "0" gloss areas in the Corvette; it calls out "60 Gloss" as used on" Windshield side and upper garnish moudlings. Upper garnish mouldings. Halo panel. Hardtop garnish mouldings. Door Upper - Inner. Kick panel retainer. Lock Pillar return flange and Cap (inner).

It calls out 3 degree gloss (read semi) on: Instrument panel. Windshield lower garnish, Radio Speaker grille, Heater outlet panel, seat and jack stowage wells. Also on directional signal housing, Mast Jacket, Steering wheel hub, Steering column escutcheon, glove box frame and Linkage cover panel inner, Rear compantment inner area & linkage cover panel outer.

The DuPont code for 3 degree black is 4466-L; Ditzler is 9292 and R/M is unknown to me.

[Gary B.]

Loren; Is there a DuPont code for "60 Gloss"?

Loren,

It sounds like the area I'm talking about is what your Dupont info calls the "Door Upper - Inner" and that calls for the 60 Gloss. Do your books have a code for the 60 Gloss?

Gary

[Loren L.]

"60 Gloss" =s 88 *NM*

[Gary B.]

Re: "60 Gloss" =s 88

Loren,

So to be clear, the exterior Tuxedo black DuPont code is 88L and the Dupont interior code for the 60 Gloss is "s 88"?

Gary

[Dick W.]

Re: "60 Gloss" =s 88

Gary, I think that you will find the reference to 60 gloss is a degree of reflectiveness, with 100 being high gloss and 0 being flat. Some/most flattening additives will give a mixing ratio to achieve a certain degree of gloss. If you are using DuPont lacquer, use the DuPont flattener, or have your paint jobber mix it for you to the level of gloss that you desire. Be sure to shake the paint thoroughly as the flatter will settle out of the paint fairly rapidly.

See you in Berkley

[Gary B.]

Dick; an obvious neophyte question

Dick,

If I understand you correctly, if I get some DuPont black lacquer and I don't mix in any flattening additive, then I will wind up with 100% gloss after buffing. If on the other hand, I mix in the correct amount of flattener, I can get 60% gloss after buffing. And therefore I shouldn't be looking to buy a 60% gloss already ready in a can, since I can make 60% gloss or have it made once I have the standard black lacquer. Is my understanding more or less correct?

Gary

[Dick W.]

Re: Dick; an obvious neophyte question

Gary, you are basically right on the mixing/buffing. If you are looking for a spray can, I am not sure where/how to find the correct gloss, especially if you are trying to just do a small area. I would think that it would be hit/miss on matching the sheen. If you find a jobber that can mix your lacquer, he should be able to add the proper amount of flattener to the quantity you are buying. I am sure that a jobber that still mixes lacquer in California is going to be a rare occurence. A source that a lot of people recommend is www.autocolorlibrary.com. I personally have not used them other that to order a new airbrush from them

One other point. Do not overbuff the flattened paint. You can make the surface glossier that what you desire

[Gary B.]

Dick: Thanks, I learn a little more with each post *NM*

[Chuck S.]

Better To Have Them Mix It...

And spray a test panel. My experience with trying to flatten a few ounces of "ready to spray" PPG has been frustrating to say the least...results were widely variable.