Are there a few simple checks that can RULE OUT a candidate car from being a genuine BB C2? Might there be frame differences or the like?
Tom
Tom
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Re: '65 396 C2's...
On a 65 396 car the battery is on the opposite side of the engine compartment. There should be a 6500 redline tach. Rear swaybar present, bb rear end with bolts instead of u bolts. Transistorized ignition std w/ high hp bb cars on c 2's. Also on original holley equiped cars there should be only one fuel line from the tank and 390 hp cars had two because they used a rochester q jet and need an extra return line. Just a few things. -
Re: '65 396 C2's...oops.
390 hp?
The 6500 tach can be added, as can the sway bar, rear diff, transister ignition, and so on. This means you have to check that they were not added, which is hard.
The left side battery was also on AC cars, so the parts for '65 are also available and can be added. If so, you might be able to detect where the AC/396 inner fender was added on the left and you might find threads in the right side battery mount if it was a small block that "grew" into a big block.
There are many other changes for the 396 and unfortunately, someone installed them in St. Louis so someone can install them in Long Island, NY or Los Angeles, CA. The trick is to determine if they did or not. That comes from tell-tale signs of threads in holes that would not have been used, dents/creases/cuts in items where other items were once installed that shouldn't be, and so on.
Be prepared to crawl under and in it, take a good light, and a digital camera with a flash, as it will reveal a lot of things you don't see the first time.
As some have started to point out, a car converted in 1980 would look 25 years old, and hard to determine if items found are original or 25 years "new".
Where is the car and what is it? Maybe someone here already knows it.Comment
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Re: '65 396 C2's...
Q-Jets were never used on midyears - BB's all used Holleys.
If the VIN on a '65 L-78 is below 13,000, walk away (the guy who paid $140,000 for the one at B-J didn't bother to look).Comment
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Re: '65 396 C2's...
I meant c2 bb's in general . The 396 425 hp was the only bb available in 65Comment
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Re: '65 396 C2's...oops.
Mike----
Nobody on Long Island would make up a bogus car. Guys in California do that sort of thing but nobody on Long Island would do it. Ever.In Appreciation of John HinckleyComment
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Re: '65 396 C2's...oops.
Where was the amplifier for TI located? Perhaps this would be a clue, since the car currently has a points distributor.
TomComment
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Re: '65 396 C2's...oops.
for a 396, pass side, front face of core support, about halfway between top and bottom of support. should be three holes to attacht the pulse amp. mikeComment
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Re: '65 396 C2's...oops.
Was there another clamp for the wiring harness on the driver's side firewall for L78 only? Did AO Smith bodies recieve side pipes? Was the L78 installed in AO Smith bodies? Were the voltage regulator and horn relay mountings the same for L78 equipped cars? Were the clutch levers different? How about the accelerator rods/linkage/return spring pieces? Wern't the rear shock stablizers larger for L78? If a car had been originally equiped with C60, what would be some tell tale signs (anything behind the dash like removed clamps/hangers/bolt holes) that would not be there on a non a/c car? How about where the a/c ducts were mounted, anything to look for there? Would there be any indication in the fuse box? Is the cutout in the cowl where the heater box is mounted different? Could this be identified w/o removing the box? Would there be any signs of an a/c box being replaced with a non a/c box? Were the expansion tank mounting holes in the same position; were they the same configuration? What about the proper placement of the side fender emblems; is there difinative information on the exact placement of these?Comment
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Unless they were a transplant from Cumberland MD.. *NM*
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