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  • Jack J.
    Very Frequent User
    • August 1, 2000
    • 422

    #1

    Door Handles

    The door handles from Trimparts, just how do they compare to the originals and NCRS judging? Thanks in advance.
  • Joe C.
    Expired
    • September 1, 1999
    • 4601

    #2
    Re: Door Handles

    Jack:

    I assume that you are referring to the outside door handles for your 1964 model. I have heard that the edges of the reproductions are sharper, less rounded than original handles. The judges will not be fooled. I am not sure of the exact points "hit" for originality, but must assume that it will be considerable in the "configuration" axis.
    There are probably other nuances, and I'm sure that there will be plenty of further replies.

    Joe

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    • John H.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • December 1, 1997
      • 16513

      #3
      Re: Door Handles

      The max "hit" for door handle configuration is one point; the Trim Parts handles are the best you'll find (not the Taiwan handles).

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      • Joe C.
        Expired
        • September 1, 1999
        • 4601

        #4
        Re: Door Handles

        John:

        I remember seeing a post, where the Trim Parts handle was photographed alongside an original piece. Part of the text read "notice the more rounded edges of the original". Well, I had to look hard, but did notice a very slight difference. I have Trim Parts handles on my '65, and they look and work great. I don't really care that they are "slightly less rounded than the original", and I know that nobody but an expert judge will notice.
        In looking at the 1963-1967 judging sheet, the "door handles, key lock bezel & gasket" together are assigned a total of six "originality" points. Even assuming that the lion's share goes to the door handles (let's say 4 of 6), then 1 point is still a very significant 25%. Here's a case where fractional points should be considered.

        Joe

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        • John H.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • December 1, 1997
          • 16513

          #5
          Re: Door Handles

          One point is 25% of 4, but it's only .000022% of 4500

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          • Joe R.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • March 1, 2002
            • 1350

            #6
            Re: Door Handles

            I have been studying 64-67 door handles since I got a deduction for the repros on my car. Many judges simply feel the handle and look for the sensation of a "sharp edge" on the underside of the grip, but they can't really articulate what they are looking for. Following is my attempt to describe what I have seen after studying several original handles.

            On original door handles, the hand-grip surface that faces down and away from the car is slightly concave, and the edge where it meets the inside vertical surface feels rather sharp to the touch. On inspection, this edge is usually a 1/16 inch wide flat that looks like it was created by a grinding operation.

            On some repro handles I have seen (and on some later GM service replacements), the surface that is supposed to be concave is convex instead. Also, the 1/16 inch wide "ground" edge is typically more rounded.

            I purchased a set of GM Restoration Parts handles from Greenwood Chevrolet. Perhaps these are made by Trim Parts. In my judgement, these repro handles were so close to the original that most people would have trouble telling the difference. However, the 1/16 inch flat that I described above was more rounded and less well defined than on an original handle. In the end, I sent the handles back and decided to have some originals rechromed.

            I don't have my rechromed originals back yet, but I have been told that rechromers often buff out and round off the sharp edge that is so important to the judges. I asked the chrome guy to promise me he would leave that sharp edge intact, so we'll see how it comes out.

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            • Joe C.
              Expired
              • September 1, 1999
              • 4601

              #7
              Re: Door Handles

              John:

              Of course, that is obviously true. However, the original question referred to the door handles only, and not the entire car. Since the door handles are assigned approximately 4 originality points, then a one point deduction equates to a 25% deduction for originality.

              Joe

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