Trim tag question

[Willard M.]

I have been reading the Grenning/Sinor book about trim tags and still have some confusion. It seems that A.O.Smith bodies didn't provide all the information that St.Louis bodies did so that there is room for doubt regarding originality of some interior features. For example there seems no clear way, from trim tag information, to tell if a A.O.Smith bodied car originaly came with head rest seats, power windows, and some other options that were spelled out with St.Louis bodies through their exception codes.

A related question has to do with side-pipes. Although the car in question doesn't have side-pipes, I seem to remember hearing that only one supplier made bodies with side-pipes. Any truth to that impression?

Bill #2659

[John H.]

Re: Trim tag question

Bill -

Although the A.O. Smith process sheets show that they had the information necessary to produce bodies for sidepipe cars, it's generally understood that they were never allocated any orders for sidepipe cars, they never actually produced any, and none have ever been documented.

[Donald T.]

Re: Trim tag question

So does that mean that any A.O. Smith car would automatically receive a full deduction for side exhaust? No reference in the JG.

[Willard M.]

Re: Trim tag question

Thanks for the comments about side-pipe cars. Any comments about the first part of my question. Can I be sure about headrest cars only if they are St. Louis bodies?

Bill #2659

[Bill W.]

Re: Trim tag question

John ,did A.O.Smith build bodys for big blocks ,a.c.& fuel cars ?

[Roy S.]

Re: Trim tag question

Bill,

There are several instances of documented 64-65 fuelies, and 65-66 big blocks from A O Smith.

[John H.]

Re: Trim tag question

Bill -

All seats were installed at St. Louis, so there would be no distinction between A.O. Smith/St. Louis bodies in terms of the headrest option. A.O. Smith bodies were naked inside when they arrived at St. Louis - they only had glass and weatherstrips installed to keep the rain out (they were water-tested before leaving Ionia).

[Bill W.]

Re: Trim tag question

Thanks Roy.