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  • Rick #42561

    Help! More strange mid-year paint...

    On further review of some enlarged images I've found another problem. What is this, and is there any way it's a result of original paint aging or chemical reactions? Or?




    Strange paint
  • Rick #42561

    #2
    Here's a larger shot...

    Same as before without the extra click...




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    • William C.
      NCRS Past President
      • May 31, 1975
      • 6037

      #3
      Re: Here's a larger shot...

      What it is is paint that was poorly applied and the metallic flakes "puddled" Normally this is seen on mediocre paint jobs with clearcoat.
      Bill Clupper #618

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      • Rick #42561

        #4
        Re: Here's a larger shot...

        More of the same, eh?

        I strongly suspect you are correct. Something along those lines was my impression initially, and once I got the images enlarged, they tended to reinforce those thoughts.

        At this point, I don't see how it could be other than what you describe. But not being that familiar with paint aging or original finishes, and I didn't want to jump to conclusions.

        Thanks very much for your time and help, Bill. And for a new (to me)word-'puddling.'

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        • William C.
          NCRS Past President
          • May 31, 1975
          • 6037

          #5
          Re: Here's a larger shot...

          As a friend of mine once noted, if it looks like a rough spot in the paint, but it doesn't feel rough to the touch, "It's Clearcoat" (That particular reference was to a strand of hair clearly seen in the paint job which could not be felt on the surface). With reference to the description, the flakes in metallic paints are heavier than the paint and if a coat is applied to heavily, the metallic particles will tend to distribute unevenly giving an appearance as in your picture. One of the reasons I don't paint.
          Bill Clupper #618

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          • Craig S.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • June 30, 1997
            • 2471

            #6
            Re: Here's a larger shot...

            Usually called mottling.....Craig

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            • William C.
              NCRS Past President
              • May 31, 1975
              • 6037

              #7
              Told you there is a reason I don't paint! *NM*

              Bill Clupper #618

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              • Rick #42561

                #8
                Saw the car

                I did see the car, and as I once remarked/suspected on the prior thread, most of the marks were crazing or checking. There was little or no paint flow marking except where spot repairs had been done. Apparently, the low res photos or compression softened the image/damage. There was no dimple on the hood surround. If anybody's still following the thread, I'll elaborate.

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                • Craig S.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • June 30, 1997
                  • 2471

                  #9
                  Re: Saw the car

                  Rick - usually the lack of dimple behind the brake cylinder area in the surrond indicates previous body work and the dimple gets sanded off. It is probable that the car was previously painted, and the paint is old and crazing....Craig

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                  • William C.
                    NCRS Past President
                    • May 31, 1975
                    • 6037

                    #10
                    Re: Saw the car

                    Why no dimple? Either sanded off during repaint or front end replaced???
                    Bill Clupper #618

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                    • Rick #42561

                      #11
                      Re: Saw the car

                      Bill and Craig, thanks for following up. I haven't thought about this stuff since the last time I tried to find a car (and gave up in disgust), so I'm still getting back up to speed.

                      My guess is the car had a fairly decent job done to repair front end damage some years ago. It may have had a front end clip, new or used, grafted on. It wasn't a one-piece front end, and the molding strips inside the front fenderwells were intact and without excess bondo buildup.

                      I thought I detected a vertical seam in the fiberglass in area of the crossed flags/side grille area on the fender ridges, but it didn't come out in the pictures I took.

                      Due to the unexpectedly poor condition of the paint, which was competely crazed and checked on the top surfaces, I also didn't bother to put the car on a rack, but the shots taken by sticking the camera under the car suggested some minor, minor overspray that shouldn't have been there at all.

                      Paint-wise, my conclusion is that it had lacquer reshot over the existing finish at the time of the repair, and that may have caused or precipitated the crazing. Some of the crazing was at the surface and touchable; some of it had not yet broken through.

                      Had the original pictures showed the extent and nature of the problem, I wouldn't have gone to see car, but apparently the low-resolution photos and compression hid the problem.

                      I'm still unclear on how/why the dimple would have been sanded as it would have almost certainly have been the correct color and behind the clip, but perhaps the paint build-up covers it.

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