No Gas...... Car died

[Paul Reynolds]

This is really weird as the fuel pump, filter, fuel lines and tank are all new.

There was some discussion about GF-90 fuel filters having the flow arrow backwards. Could this cause a fuel flow problem?

Got the car delivered back home, took the family to dinner and started work when we got home. First shot at the throttle and the car started right up.

Between the time the car died and the tow truck came to get it was 7 hours. Would not start and had no gas to the carb when the tow truck came. 3 hours later, now I have gas.

Fuel pump is pushing gas like no tomorrow. Running 7 psi. Changed the fuel filter and I'll drive some tomorrow to see if I can make it die again. Hopefully it was a bad/clogged fuel filter

[Paul Reynolds]

Re: No Gas...... Car died

I put in an older silver GF-90 fuel filter I had around for a test. Got 2 new ones coming tomorrow. I'll make sure to install the new one the correct way. Ran fine this morning on the way to work.

Only 2 days left before I leave for Carlisle..... Hope I make it.

[Mac Peppers]

Re: No Gas...... Car died

if the fuel level is low in the tank, i'd take a flashlight and peek to see if there is any crud on the bottom of the tank.
mac

[Paul Reynolds]

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Tank is clean as a whistle (only 3 months old). I did look in there to see if anything was wrapped around the screen, but nothing. I had just filled up yesterday morning. Got real smelly as I put my arm in the tank to feel if anything was on the screen. Wife made me stay outside till I got all the gas smell off my arm.

[Mac Peppers]

i've been there *NM*

[Paul Reynolds]

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Happened again today at lunch. Coming back to work......6 mile drive.... Same thing. Died at the entrance (maybe the car is trying to tell me something). Seems to be related to being stuck in traffic. I had to wait several cycles of the traffic light before turning into work.

This time I had some tools in the car.

Again, no gas in the carb. Pulled the carb inlet hose and gas was there under pressure. Tapped the fuel bowl and could hear the float bouncing around. The only thing I can come up with at this point is the inlet needle is getting stuck closed when the carb is hot and I'm idleing. Probably some crap or something stuck in there. Will pull that out and swap it for another spare needle/seat I have.

Hope that fixes it.

[Paul Reynolds]

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A little more info... 64 327/365, 2818 Holley, all fuel plumbing as GM designed it.

[Gary Bishop]

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Sound like my `62 when the fuel pump had a leak in the diaphram.

[Wayne K.]

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Paul,

If your Holley has gas in the rear bowl and not the front and you have pressure at the line I think you've found the problem in a stuck needle/seat.

Wayne

[Wayne K.]

In addition..

Try tapping the top of the needle/seat with the handle of a screwdriver or the like and see if the bowl fills then.

Wayne

[Paul Reynolds]

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Not fixed yet. Changed the needle & seat and ran the car but it stopped again. Finally broke down and re-tested the fuel pump while it was hot.... Only got 1 psi and less when it finally died. Looks like a new fuel pump tomorrow. This one was new 3 months ago. Talk about last minute....... 1 more day to Carlisle.

[Paul Reynolds]

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Finally found the culprit.... The fuel pump was broke. The pin that the pump lever pivots on was missing (fell out) and the return spring for the lever broke in two. I think the spring was the only thing that was making it work the last couple of days until it gave up the ghost.

New pump is in and everything seems to be OK.

Onward to Carlisle in the morning (with my support truck close behind).

[Jim T.]

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Have a safe trip listening to those side pipes.