Can anyone comment on how accurate these look. And what you should look for to tell counterfit from real? Ebay Item number: 4580058422
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Re: Repro window sticker
I can't comment on the accuracy of the sticker but after reading their ad on e-bay I certainly hope their spelling and grammar are more accurate on the sticker than their ad. They use "patients" when making these things, interesting, I wonder what medical facility they are working from.
I'd be suspicious especially if I am paying $65.00 for a piece of paper. I would want to be assured it would be accurate and spelled correctly since judges will be srutinizing it.
Just my 2 cents,
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Oops,
I misspelled scrutinizing.
KurtComment
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Hagerty Ins.
Hi,
If e-bay wants $65, I think it's too much for a repro. I ordered one from either the NCRS store or the Corvette Museum a few years ago for about $25. Since I had the original, and just wanted another to stick in the window, I was not too concerned as to quality, but I couldn't tell the difference. The color was correct, and as I went over it carefully, I couldn't spot any differences. Layout, font, etc. - all the same.
I had it laminated so I could throw it on the dash or tape it to a window for display. But I was very pleased at how it looked.
Maybe this will save you a few bucks.
Regards,
Rich
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Re: Repro window sticker
Windows stickers are not examined during flight or bowtie judging.Comment
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A short transition to tank stickers....
I'll bet you that this fellow can (and probably does) crank out "original" aged-to-perfection tank stickers as well. Too bad.
Best regards,
CharlieComment
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Re: A short transition to tank stickers....
That is why I was wondering if there are ways to tell a repro from original. You can't make out the detail all that well from the photos but it looks pretty convincing.
It seems that more cars for sale are showing up with "original" window stickers and It would be nice to be able to tell the fake from the real.Comment
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Re: A short transition to tank stickers....
From the 'For What Its Worth' file. I've a friend who bought new Peace Medals (given to American Indians as a gift from "the great white father" during the US westward expansion) that were struck from original dies. Purchased them at a Smithsonian gift shop then aged them to where they appeared to have been worn by Chief Sitting Bull or such for ages. These were not sold but used in period costumes in our black powder club, you know, those that can't shoot, dress up.
If you buy a car that has a "genuine" window sticker, you pay your money, you take your chance. It would take a very good eye to detect some of the document forgeries that are around today, particularly when a potential purchaser is caught up in the excitement of buying whatever item is deemed to be "documented". The purchaser wants to believe it is genuine, so the seller is one step ahead of you already.
I see no legitimate purpose in anyone selling repro artificially aged documents in our hobby. Just my humble opinion.
Best regards,
CharlieComment
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Re: Repro window sticker
Ian
the typical differences are the type of paper it is printed on, the lack of the order number presence and various fonts. It helps to see a few original and even have a known original when viewing the document in question.Comment
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Re: Repro window sticker
Just purchase a repro window sticker from AAA out of Indianapolis for about $25. Forget the "original looking, but old" aspect. Do you put used seat skins or old carpet in your car? Heck no!!!! So why an "aged" window sticker?????Comment
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Re: Repro window sticker
Kurt,They are very accurate. If you don't give them all the info retaining to your car, they will emdiatly call you and get it. Just have patients with them!Comment
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My own eBay Special
I'll not only sell you fake documents for your car, I'll fix you up with a birth certificate to fool all the "judges"! You can be Abe Lincoln, Preston Tucker, Fats Domino, or whoever.
No wait... I can do better than that! What about a fake marriage certificate that allows you to present your wife to all the "judges" as Marilyn Monroe! Shoot, I'll even throw in a another birth certificate to make your daughter into a fake Albert Einstein.
Really, if someone buys a $65 "aged" fake window sticker for their undocumented car, then they are either very twisted or have criminal intentions. Or both. And the seller isn't any better.Comment
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Re: My own eBay Special
Well said....Comment
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Re: Repro window sticker
Ian;
There seems to be 2 important pieces of information missing on the example shown. If these were included, I would say it appears to be a good likeness to an original.
On later window documents, ie: 1969, 1970, 1971, & 1972 each year had variations of the preprinted contents on the document, making it difficult to determine by vin sequence which version should be used.
Best to have known originals for the year you're examining.Comment
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Mike, Technically, you're right - window stickers
themselves are not judged during judging. However, had an interesting experince at one National Convention. Two C1 cars being judged had window stickers. I have no idea if they were real or not. I noticed the first one indicated the car was optioned with RPO Wide Wheels, but the car was presented with standard wheels and full wheel covers. The second car was the absolute opposite, showing no optional wheels on the sticker, but being presented with wide wheels and small hubcaps on the field.
Interesting judging dilemma. The owner's were basically providing documentation that their cars were incorrectly equipped as presented.
Long story short, the "wheel judges" deducted for the first car. By the time they got to the second car, that window sticker had vanished... I guess word travels fast on the judging field.Comment
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