rosette rivets

[Dale S.]

Why would anyone bid 20.00 for 2 rosette rivets?

[Mark #28455]

Re: rosette rivets

Have you tried to get some?

[Dale S.]

Re: rosette rivets

Why would I need them, my car has the ORIGINAL plates.

[John M.]

Re: rosette rivets

Then your question was merely retorical then? I would guess that if Someone needed them to re-attach a Vin tag, then they would be worth more than that!
Surely nobody would ever use them to put a new VIN tag on another car!

Regards, John McGraw

[Terry F.]

Re: rosette rivets

You may of may not be aware that they are special rivets. My understanding is that they are not to be sold in the US over the counter. But, I heard you could buy them in Canada. Sort of hard to police a thing like that though. Just what I heard. But, if you had a rotted out bird cage and you wanted to transfer a VIN tag to another body, that would be the way to do it and hide the fact that it was done. Or, you just might want to do the job right and use the correct rivets. Terry

[Michael W.]

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All the vendors I know of are US based. They pop up on eBay quite frequently.

[Terry F.]

Re: rosette rivets

That is true...but technically, I don't think they can sell them with the intended purpose of transfering a vin tag. I don't know the whole story. Just some stuff I read that I can't remember. Too many brain cells on the fritz. Terry

[Mark #28455]

birdcage rust is common on C3's

So, if you want to take the rust out, you need to tave off the original VIN tag and be able to later re-attach it. Amazing how many high perf cars from the rust belt show up with this problem. I saw a 1969 L89 convert white/black in Ohio with rusty windshield frame but nice original interior, engine, etc. and the owner was trying to sell it for $10,000. Kinda makes those rivets look like a bargain!

[Harmon C.]

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Terry

I was told by an officer of the law in one state it was not illegal to sell them. He did say it was very illegal to use them like in a theft ring. He also said you can buy a hand gun and shoot tin cans where it is legal but don't use it at the local carry out as the results will be the same.

Lyle

[Terry F.]

Re: rosette rivets

Makes sense. You know I don't really see what the harm is transferring VIN tag to another car body for the purposes of restoration. Say you have a nice car with great documentation but the bird cage is trashed. I believe I heard comments that it has to be done by a licensed individual or something. I have never found myself in that situation. I supose if I was in that situation, I would consider it.

Terry

[Terry F.]

Re: birdcage rust is common on C3's

In many cases you find that the frame is trash if the bird cage is trash. But if you have the time it would not be too difficult to combine two cars. For me it would be fun. Just need to find the time, place and money. No money around here these days though. Promised the wife I would finish my corvette that I already have before starting another project. Later, Terry

[Harmon C.]

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As long as you own both cars and it happens behind closed doors I'm sure it happens all the time. I saw a C-3 that half of the VIN Tag was rusted off.

Lyle

[Terry F.]

Re: rosette rivets

If I ever get a high horse/high dollar car, it will because I bought a basket case and put it together. I would like to find something a bit more unusual next time. Later, Terry

[Joe L.]

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Lyle-----

The officer was correct. As far as I know, there is no law regarding sale or possession of "rosette" rivets.

Also, another popular misconception is that there is a law which forbids the manufacture or possession of "reproduction" or "replacement VIN tags. As far as I know there is no such federal law and, as far as California goes, there is no such law, either. There is a California law which says that it's illegal to possess or use such tags FOR ILLEGAL PURPOSES. Affixing such tags to a motor vehicle in California without the approval and supervision of the DMV is an illegal purpose under the law. Possessing a drawer full of VIN tags, original or reproduction, is NOT a violation of the law, though.

[Harmon C.]

Re: rosette rivets

Joe
That officer did have a little fun with me in Carlisle on a nice day in late August.

Lyle