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  • Duke W.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • January 1, 1993
    • 15610

    #31
    It's all in the details

    Almost any smooth amorphous automotive shape will show decent aero, but windshield rake angle is a significant factor. Beyond this it's all in the details. That's why modern cars have flush mounted glass and reveal moldings and tightly integrated bumpers versus pre seventies energy crisis designs.

    A few years ago Road and Track had an article on automotive aero. They included a table of features that allowed one to estimate the Cd of a car. I didn't try this with the Corvette, because it is a bit different than a sedan, but I ran the numbers for my Cosworth Vega. A Vega hatchback coupe has a decent overall shape, but the glass and doors are recessed and the drip rails and bumpers hang out in the breeze. I computed 0.45, and I'd bet big bucks it's within 30 points (a point is .001) of the real number. A Saturn coupe is around 0.35

    In 1989 as I was doing final prep on my MBZ 190E 2.6 to start the Silver State Classic Challenge (the Nevada open road race)the crew of a 944 gridded several places ahead of me chucked as I removed the mirrors and taped up most of the grille and body seams. I wanted to tape up my navigator's door but he refused unless I was willing to tape up my door and crawl in through the sunroof.I told the Porsche crew I figured it was worth a good three MPH. They chuckled again. It was probably about 10 miles down course when we first recognized the black 944 about about 1000 yards out. As I pulled up within a car length I noted that we were making 132 and estimated the 944's speed at 129, a three mile per hour difference. It was like walking past a parked car. My navigator gaves them a "thumbs up" as we cruised on by and I remarked that maybe next year they'll tape it up. Gimme five minutes and a roll of duct tape and I'll take at least 20 points of the drag coefficient.

    Duke

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    • Lou Lapham

      #32
      Re: Coefficient of Drag 2/Do pigs fly?

      Wow-Mr Wizard would be proud. ;) Lou

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      • Jerry Clark

        #33
        Re: It's all in the details

        Duke:

        I like this story a LOT.

        jer

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        • Shane G.
          Expired
          • September 30, 1994
          • 87

          #34
          GS#1

          I am too young to have seen the GS the first time around but I was at Road America at the Historic Challenge to see GS#1 running with Cobras and GT40s. See the Photo but imagine the sound. Sorry for the poor photo quality.

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          • Everett Ogilvie

            #35
            Re: GS#1

            Thanks for posting the photo. I can't wait until the 2002 NCRS National which will be in Monterey, along with the Vintage Races at Laguna Seca. I have heard it is the experience of a liftime.

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            • John H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • December 1, 1997
              • 16513

              #36
              Re: GS#1

              Everett - Tom Armstrong owns GS chassis #003, and races it frequently in vintage meets, Monterey historics, etc. I built my D&D tube-frame replica as an exact duplicate of Tom's car, frozen in time as it appeared at Sebring in 1964 (color features in 11/97 "Vette" magazine and 3/98 KIT CAR magazine); fun car!

              John

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