Question about Black & White tile in a garage

[Everett Ogilvie]

For you guys who have black and white tile in your shops - what grade of tile, and especially what type of adhesive did you use to install? Any issues with driving cars on and off it? Thanks in advance.

[Mike M.]

Re: Question about Black & White tile in a garage

Sounds like you are referring to vinyl.???
H. a. N. D.

[Harold M.]

Re: Question about Black & White tile in a garage

Everett,Specify a commercial grade tile like used in grocery stores, etc. I would consult a good flooring installer about your specific application.

[Everett Ogilvie]

Epoxy paint instead of tile....

Called Armstrong tile maker and their application engineer said "we don't make a grade of tile for garages". When pushed, they said b/c if the tile is wet, your car won't stop, and... so, clearly they don't want any liability issues. After looking at photos of many shops, I may paint the B&W pattern using a two part epoxy paint (I was originally going to use gray epoxy finish anyway, so get the best of two worlds maybe).

[John H.]

Re: Epoxy paint instead of tile....

The vinyl and vinyl/asphalt tiles will absorb the oils from tires (even cold tires), which will permanently stain them, and NOTHING will get the stain out; looks great for a few months, then starts to look grungy, and stays that way.

[rick spears]

Re: Epoxy paint instead of tile....

everett...if you do paint the black and white checkered patern, let me know how it turns out (and how you did it) because i have been wanting to do something like that in my garage also. i painted it light gray about 3 years ago with a 2 part epoxy...it has held up very well, and cleans up pretty easily. has anyone else attempted to paint the checkered pattern, if so, what kind of results did you have? rick

[Everett Ogilvie]

Re: Epoxy paint instead of tile....

Go to http://garagejunkies.net Then go to the Flooring forum - everything in the universe is there. Somewhere on this site yesterday I viewed a thread where a guy did the two color epoxy and it came out great. This is a pretty good site...

[Brian M.]

Re: Epoxy paint instead of tile....

I saw someone selling red white and blue bow ties to be used as the fleck's in an epoxy paint job, cant't remember where. Any help here?

[Kent K.]

Re: Epoxy paint instead of tile....

Everett, Rick, and others,

Here is a photo of my recentlt epoxyed garage/shop floor. This was done over new, protected, concrete that had aged over a year. I'm a little slower than several years ago. I used PPG Aquapon but there are many other commercial quality epoxies ... several with less odor.

Kent #6210

[Everett Ogilvie]

Re: Epoxy paint instead of tile....

Very nice Kent! Did you paint the entire floor white, and then mask off and paint the black? That is one method I found on the garage junky website. Thanks for the pic!

[Gary C.]

Sherwin Williams 2 part epoxy

Everett, used Sherwin Williams, it's industrial strength, real solvent based 2 part epoxy that's ADA rated for slippage. Do not use water base. Another NCRS member - John McGraw has used Sherwin Williams for years and it doesn't dent or chip. Have dropped heavy stuff like 10HP compressor and slid it into place without marring. Tire marks and oil wipe right up. They can mix any color or colors you want. Here's datasheet link

http://www.sherlink.com/sher-link/application?namespace=msdsAndDataPages&origin=dummy.jsp&query=datapages&event=link.proddoc&sku=640120374

Used 2 coats, did not used any sand for grit in top coat and it's not any slippery than wet concrete.

Good luck,

Gary
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[rick spears]

Re: Epoxy paint instead of tile....

kent...your floor looks fantastic! that's exactly what i have in mind for my shop. how did you do it exactly, i mean did you paint the floor entirely white, then tape off for black squares or what? tell me what procedure you used to get the pattern.....thanks, rick

[John M.]

Re: Epoxy paint instead of tile....

Keep in mind however, that white epoxy paint will yellow in when it is hit by sunlight. Urethane will not yellow as bad when exposed to UV, and might be a better choice if you are going to use white and your door opening catches much sun. I know of no ones epoxy that will not yellow. I chose a light beige color just so you can't see the yellowing. Jerry Clark used a very light color, and he has one of those translucent overhead doors, and I understand that it yellowed out in less than a year. The epoxy is more durable, but the urethane shines better and does not yellow as bad, take your choice!

Regards, John McGraw

[Kent K.]

Re: Epoxy paint instead of tile....

Everett, Rick, et al ----

Thanks for the nice feedback. It's been a long DIY project!

The process I used:
1. Tried to keep the newly pored concrete clean as possible duing other construction.
2. After framing all the interior partitions, muratic acid etched the floor and let it dry about a week after multiple rinsings with water.
3. Rolled on one coat of 2-part white PPG Aquapon epoxy to protect the concrete during drywalling, painting, etc.
4. Scrubbed the floor to remove drywall and assorted construction dustings.
5. Rolled on 2 more thin coats of white epoxy letting them cure for about a week each. (No one was allowed in the spaces during this time.)
6. Marked off 32" increments at the front and back and both sides. Using 1.5" wide painter's tape, taped continuous runs keeping on the same side of all marks. Taped off 2 sides of each square to remain white and cut out the 2 continuous sides of tape from squares to receive black epoxy. (See photo. Sorry for the large size but I can't return for more pics.) Be sure to burnish the tape down very well. I didn't and resulted with some ragged edges which are nearly concealed be the large 32" square pattern.
7. Used only half a kit (1/2 gallon each of part A & B) of black epoxy for the black squares.

Sorry for the long response, but you guys asked. BTW, if doing it again, I'd probably use Sherwin Williams epoxy ... less odor.

If you have any other questions, or would like me to forward more technical information from my research, email me.

Good luck,
Kent #6201

[rick spears]

Re: Epoxy paint instead of tile....

kent....thanks alot for the info! i definately am going to do my garage/shop this way (as soon as it warms up a bit)
looks like the taping job will be tedious, but well worth the effort! thanks again! rick