4 speed shifter (64)

[Tim Blake]

I have a 64 and I am looking at a couple of shifters on ebay. Is there any difference in the shifter from 64 to 67? Thanks for the help.

[mike mccagh]

Re: 4 speed shifter (64)

no but the c-3 vette shifter differs from the c-2 muncie shifter. the 66 and 67 shifters mount differently than the 64 and 65 but the shifters per se are the same.mike

[Tim Blake]

Re: 4 speed shifter (64)

I am removing a hurtz shifter to install the original, it sound like the mounting bracket is different in a 67? Tim

[William C.]

Re: 4 speed shifter (64)

'64-65 mount directly to the trans tailhousing via a special adapter. '66-67 mount to a bracket attached to the frame crossmember. The shifters thenselves are the same.

[Jim T.]

Re: 4 speed shifter (64)

Tim you can also check out www.volvette.com and check out their new complete shifters for your 64. A new shifter could give you better service than what is offered on e-bay.

[Wayne M.]

Other differences '64 vs. '65-up

The '64 rods (1-2 and 3-4) differ from '65; and there may have been further changes in '66 (It's all in Noland Adams Vol.2) The 1-2 and 3-4 shifter levers that bolt to the trans don't have the "fast shift" lower holes in '64. Finally, the lever assembly itself (Group 4.006) is shown as # 3857394 for '64 and into '65 (to 11-65 in service), and 3863363 for balance of '65 thru '67, although I can't figure out what the difference is. Lastly, the early '66s (up to late Oct '65) still mounted the shifter assy. to that thick triangular bracket that bolts directly to the tailshaft housing on the trans; after that went to the bracket bolted to the frame X-member.

[Michael H.]

Re: Other differences '64 vs. '65-up

Wayne,

I agree. Also, I seem to remember a change in the reverse release lever for 64. Wasn't there a small allen head set screw retaining the reverse lockout rod on at least 64, and possibly early 65? This hole and set screw would have been visible on the round chrome section of the handle assy on the shifter. I believe later 65 or possibly 66 began the use of a crimp end rod which eliminated the need for the set screw.

Also, I believe the very first design shifter for 64 used a reverse release cable instead of a rod. I think there were at least two changes and possibly three for this design that year. The chrome shift ball even changed part numbers during the 64 run but I don't remember what the change was. The 3857394 tower was the 2nd design, not the first, if I remember correctly.

[Mike McKown]

Re: Other differences '64 vs. '65-up

Wayne:

Maybe this is the difference:

The first design production shift lever assembly threads stopped 3/16's" from the top of the lever and used the first design plastic thread in the shift knob. Second design levers were threaded all the way up and the knob used brass threaded insert. The brass insert knob can be used with either lever, the plastic threaded knob has to be used with first design lever. I know not why.

[Mike McKown]

Re: Other differences '64 vs. '65-up

Michael:

You are right on all counts. Part of the change was in my post. See TSB #691 dated 9-8-64 for reference.

[Floyd #21606]

Re: Other differences '64 vs. '65-up

Michael, You are correct about the small allen head set screw retaining the reverse lockout rod on the 64, and early 65s. My early 1965, 11/19/64 build date had the set screw. How do I know this, the set screw got loose at about 3 am one morning and dropped down into the shift levers and it would only go in reverse. I had to drive 3 miles in reverse down A1A in Cocoa Beach to get home.
LOL
Floyd
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