Help Anyone?

[MTM]

There seems to be a problem with the car from the info given to me. The car is actually a "Riverside Red" roadster with Black interior and a 365hp 327. Since the car will eventually need paint that may not Be a big deal but the engine and interior bother me greatly. There is no sign of the interrior ever being BLUE inside or SILVER BLUE outside. Could anyone possibly explain this or let me know what else I should look for. I have apparently been told by peoples responses that the engine matches the car. Now I could really use info about the interrior. I will be paying cash within one week, up to $20k. If anyone knows anybody who may want to sell a 63 - 67 vette with matching numbers please forward their information. I also need help choosing between this car and another 1964. If any one has time to help me please email me at OneMTM@aol.com. I'll be on most of the night and can give you more info. Thanks to everyone for their help. Matt

Below Is my Previous Message:

I could really use help verifying "matching numbers" on a 1964 convertible. D16 STYLE 64 867 ---- 4201 BODY TRIM 898KA ------ 912AA PAINT

Chevrolet DD

40867 S107178

Number on engine: 4107178 F0924RE

This car had been restored 10 years ago. Will eventually need a paint job. Nice interrior, 160K miles. One thing that makes me nervous about this car is that the original DD plate with the VIN number has been popped of and a new one spot-welded in its place. At least it looks newer than the trim plate and the original rivits are not there but seems as thought it's spot-welded. Also the numbers on the engine 4107178 seem to be slightly different from F0924RE. The owner has told me that the person he bought it from said it was a "correct" car with matching numbers. If anyone could tell me what a approximate price range would be for this car, that would be great. Also other than what I have mentioned the car is immaculate in, out, and underneath.

Could use a quick response, Thanks very much Matt.

[WayneC]

Re: Help Anyone?

Gee, how many times are you planning on posting this one, Matt? The tag doesn't match the colors, thats been established.

Why not just pass on this car and spend your $20k on one that has a matching trim tag, since that seems to be very important to you?

[Robert C.]

Re: Help Anyone?

M., I missed the early posts but a 64', wrong color inside and out! Sounds like an expensive process to me. Exterior paint, $4-7k; Interior color change, $2-3k. But if its just going to be a driver and you don't plan on restoring it, who cares. I just hate to see you buy someone elses problems. Bob

[WayneC]

Re: Help Anyone?

Price guides put the value of a '64 convertible, with 365 hp engine and matching numbers, in the range of perhaps as high as $30k if only exterior paint were required to put it in near-perfect condition. That should be a red flag by itself... even your seller hedges by saying the PRIOR owner told HIM it was a matching-number car; ask him if he'll put it in writing and give you your money back if it turns out not to be. He won't, so it seems to me you need to decide how important the "matching numbers" are to you, since the numbers on this one are dubious. Don't let your excitement over a potential bargain lead you to buy something that will make you unhappy if it doesn't turn out to be a correct matching-number car. On the other hand, $20k for a great-looking '64 convertible in sound mechanical condition, even without matching numbers, seems reasonable to me.

Keep in mind, that "matching numbers" is far more than just the engine and body tags and colors. To an NCRS judge, it means a car has all original parts, with correct casting numbers and stamped part numbers and date codes where applicable, and correct finishes. In other words, it extends to differential, transmission, distributor, carburetor, manifolds, coil, alternator, window glass, seat belts, etc, etc, etc. The only assurance of "correctness" would be to have an NCRS judge for that year car go over the car with a fine-tooth comb immediately before you purchase it and drive it away, and even NCRS judges aren't infallible.

[Tom B.]

Re: Matt: Red Alert

Matt,

You're exactly right from your earlier post, you need help and advise, and fast.

1) It doesn't sound to me that the 64 with the wrong paint and interior color is what you really want, or what you're looking for, or what you'd be satisfied with. So if it's not then quit thinking about it and leave it alone.

2) If you're not a member already then I suggest that you join NCRS. At any rate, it doesn't sound like you've purchased any of the reference information that you would need to make a qualified decision. Books are at a discount to members. I suggest you get the reference books that you need, start reading them, and ask more questions.

3) There is a "bargain" born every day. It also sounds like you are in a hurry to spend your money and get the kind of Corvette that you want. What you need to realize is that everyone who has made the mistakes costing thousands of dollars has made them just like you're doing now (including me), by not being careful, getting in a hurry, and even letting Vette-fever block their judgement.

You've come to the right place, and none of us want to see you have to fix, or make up for what you missed when you finally buy the right Corvette for yourself. TBarr #24014

[Don]

Re: Help Anyone?

I am not sure of all the problems with 64 trim tags but there where a lot. My friend sold his 64 blue with silver cp. because all the books said it was the wrong colors! Only to meet Nolan Adoms at a car show and found it was a correct # and color. So check with others who are experts in only 64.

[Tom B.]

NCRS NDB Credible Information

Don,

You can be sure that any 1964 information already given here at the NDB to Matt's particular case, is accurate and correct. TBarr #24014