Looking for the proper placement of the horns for a 66 with A/C. AIM has the right side up on the right skirt w/ a horn bracket support w/rivets which is correct, but the left side is the one I can't seem to figure out.Once the condenser is in, the right standard mounting bracket can't mount as on a non-A/C car.(The only way seems to be to mount the bracket to the Condenser frame)There doesn't seem to be a different bracket available for the left side.(not anywhere that I've contacted so far)The car is a factory air 66 but the monkeys that had it prior mounted both horns on the left with a funky bracket.Any ideas and/or pics would be helpful.........B
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Bob -
Are you sure the condenser is the correct size, or might be a replacement? The driver's side horn mounted exactly the same way on both A/C and non-A/C cars. -
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I have the same problem. Here is my earlier post. My condenser is too wide as the bracket covers the drivers side horn mounting hole. See picture.
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Hi Bob:
Here is a photo of the driver's side horn on my 67 with A/C. I do not know if the mounting was the same for 66, but I think this is correct for 67.
I believe that the bolt retaining the horn is one of the mounting bolts for the A/C condenser. The horn part number is the same as for the non-A/C cars, but the mounting bracket has a bend in it. I think the AIM has instructions in the C60 section for how the bracket was supposed to be bent as an additional step for installing the horn on an A/C car.
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Got the new condenser from L.I. Corvette/correct reproduction per them......as Randy stated the condenser bracket somewhat covers the horn bracket mount hole but thats not the problem.When the condenser is mounted the thickness of the condenser does not allow the standard bracket(to short)to extend out far enough to clear the condenser.The easy answer would be to mount the bracket on the condenser support, but not sure if that would be correct.If anyone out there has pics of both sides....it would help a great deal....FYI:Randy, checked out your pic.....for the left side....I don't think thats the right mounting.......BComment
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Joe ...could you take a straight in shot of the horns??.....B BTW: in the AIM....where under C60??...I didn't see anything about the left side bracket for A/C..mines for 66.......BComment
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Hi Bob:
It's hard to get a decent photo with the hood in the way, but if you can clarify what you mean by a "straight-in" shot I will try to take a photo for you.
Maybe it would help if I explain the orientation of the photo I posted. The left side of the photo (with the wires) is the bottom side of the horn, and the flange you see under horn mounting bracket is the mounting flange for the A/C condenser. So, the orientation of the photo would be about right if you rotate it 90 degrees counter-clockwise.
The primary feature that I wanted to show with that photo is how the horn mounting bracket has been bent in a "Z" shape to let the horn clear the A/C condenser. This brings the horn forward enough to provide the necessary clearance.
I checked the C60 section in the back of the 67 AIM and could not find any reference to bending the horn bracket. When I replaced my driver's side horn a couple years ago I had to research this problem. I'm quite certain that I saw this documented somewhere, but now I can not recall where I saw it. Perhaps it was in one of the books by Noland Adams or M. F. Dobbins.
FYI, the horn in the photo was provided by Dennis Portka, who specializes in horn restoration. The Z-bend in the bracket is based on what Dennis believes to be correct for A/C cars. You might want to give him a call at 716-649-0921 to see what he can tell you about this.Comment
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Bob,
According to 66 AIM the drivers side horn mounts same as non C60. See UPC 12 A5.
It mounts between to raised ribs that prevent the bracket from turning.
The passenger horn mounts differently, that is shown in C60
On my car the condenser extends too far and partially covers this hole, that is why I concluded my condenser is too wide.
If you find information to the contrary let me know.
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Randy,
I am posting a picture of the passenger horn on my 66 w/AC. It is mounted to the fender skirt. I am away from home and do not have my AIM with me. Is this proper placement?
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Frank.....thanks for the pic........your RH horn placement seems correct...
Joe .."straight in as to stand in front of the LH lights & take the pic "Straight in" (but I did figure out your pic)...I did speak to Dennis the other day...seems that with or without A/C the LH horn mounted in the same spot although yours seems to be mounted on the Condenser bracket bolt rather than the mount hole for a non-A/C. FYI: Dennis confirmed the bracket bending thing & told me that at the factory they would "grab the horn" & just bend the bracket outward to fit!Comment
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Ron Goralski who did the horns on my '66 said that the bracket was never bent to fit but was a special bracket used on A/C cars.Comment
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Frank,
Thanks for the picture. Bob and I are trying to resolve the isssue on the drivers side. It seems that our condensers may be interfering with the mounting.
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Ian....if you have a pic of that "Special LH bracket" that would be a great help....everyone that I have contacted states the A/C & non-A/C LH brackets were the same.....if you have Ron's e-mail or phone# would be helpful......BobComment
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Bob,
What I meant to say was the bracket was not bent by hand. It has a Z shape like the one in the photo provided by Joe. Ron Goralski's number is 410-987-1948. I will try and post a photo of my bracket soon.
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Ok,
I must be thinking of something else here with the Z bracket. I looked at the photos of mine and it is the same bracket on the drivers side as non A/C cars just like John said.
I spoke with Ron Goralski again and he confirmed that it is the passenger side bracket that is different in that it is slightly shorter than the non A/C cars. He thinks this shorter bracket started to show up in mid 66-67. Sorry for the confusion.
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