C2 Dealer installed locking gas cap

[Garry E.]

I have an original, dealer-installed locking gas cap on my '64 roadster..... I receivied a full deduction at a recent chapter level meet for not having the original non-locking cap..... Why is there a penalty associated with having a dealer installed option? It would seem that if something is recognized as a correct dealer option, you should get at least some credit for it.....

Any thoughts on this.....?

[Roy B.]

Re: C2 Dealer installed locking gas cap

NO!
NCRS don't recognize ANY dealer accessory and I'm the guy that knows. That is the reason my 55 and 67 Corvettes have all the neat accessories installed in her because they are cheap , other Corvette NCRS guys aren't bidding against me.
I love it!!!

[Joe L.]

Re: C2 Dealer installed locking gas cap

Garry-----

A fundamental precept of NCRS and NCCB judging is "...as the car originally left the factory...". No Corvette ever left the factory with a locking gas cap. Hence, a deduction is made for a car being judged that deviates from the basic rule. There are a few exceptions to this policy, but VERY few. For example, in most cases, the cars did not leave the factory with (manual) antennas installed or with wheel covers/trim rings installed. However, they were supplied in the cars.

There's nothing wrong with having a locking gas cap installed nor is there anything wrong with NCRS standards. Those are the standards that the organization has developed over the years. If one wants to get involved in the NCRS judging process, then one has to conform to the standards of the organization. That's the way it is with most organizations.

Also, for a gas cap, it's very easy to change it out for judging purposes.

[Dennis C.]

Joe, As usual, well stated. *NM*

[Dwight P.]

Dealer installed items

At a recent Chapter meet, exterior was being judged and one of the judges was recording a deduction for a dealer installed name plate(between left backup light and license plate bezel). Second judge took issue with the deduction on the grounds that the dealer installed the plate prior to the sale of the car and the customer (Me) had no choice to accept it or reject it. My car has been judged a number of times and never received a deduction for this "after assembly line installation" item.

[John H.]

Re: Dealer installed items

That's because it's considered as having been part of the normal dealer pre-delivery preparation, which is the way the judging standard is written.

[Verne Frantz]

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I'm confused:
Exactly HOW is the judging standard written?????

A. As the car left the assembly plant?
B. After typical (spec'd) dealer prep?
C. As delivered to the customer?

I don't have any bias one way or the other, (and I don't even own a Corvette now) but I'm reading contrary responses (A or B), (from two people whom I regard very highly). What's the deal guys?

[Dick W.]

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Verne, the standard is "as left the factory with normal dealer prep". Normal prep would not include additional undercoating, luggage racks, locking gas caps, etc. Most dealers "normal prep" was a wash job and a trip through the service department to install the hubcaps or trim rings, had lube in the engine, transmission, and differential. If my memory service me correct, it paid the tech 3.1 hours for what they called PDI (pre delivery inspection)

[Verne Frantz]

Re: Dealer installed items

OK Thanks. That wasn't made clear. Were the front carpets installed when the Corvette was unloaded from the transport truck? They weren't on passenger cars.

I think the PDI varied by vehicle, such as valve adjustment on mechanical lifter engines. Each variation may have had it's own specific pre-delivery maintenance routine.

[Terry M.]

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Vern,
I believe carpets were installed at the factory.
FWIW: I tried to get the dealer to NOT install his nameplate on my new Corvette -- without success. It's still there.

[Dick W.]

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From my experience as a GM dealer service manager many moons ago, I believe that most PDI work was what I listed and the rest of the time alotted was spend carrying wrences around the shop, drinking coffee, bellyaching that it did not pay more time, and smoking.

[Jim S.]

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Terry,
A hair dryer and a credit card will have that plate off in about 2 minutes,a little wax ,and you would never know it was there !
Jim

[Terry M.]

Re: Dealer installed items

No go Jim. This one is a die cast plate with two mounting posts that go through holes in the rear panel. The only good news is that they put it on low on the rear, so it is not too obvious. Unfortunately the die-casting has developed pits over the years, so it looks more ugly than it did when new.

[Jim S.]

Bummer !!! *NM*