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my 65 has backup switch on trans - but car has no reverse lights - was the switch installed on all the transmissions off the line - my trans is numbers match & original - just wondering if someone removed the lights - but i see no signs of wiring in rear
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Re: 65 back up light
Ken------
The back-up lamp switch and attaching bracket were not part of the transmission assembly as delivered to St. Louis. For 1965, they were both added to the transmission if the car was equipped with the Z-01 "comfort and convenience" group.
I have no idea why your car would originally have been equipped with a back-up lamp switch if no back-up lamps were originally installed on the car. What is the switch pigtail connected to?In Appreciation of John Hinckley -
Re: 65 back up light
wire was attached at top of firewall - i cant remember exactly without looking at it - check out the pic
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Re: 65 back up light
joe
all hardware is there and attached - has a small linkage going to it??
maybe im missing something - noland adams book says n/a with aa ecl - but i think that they do not have enough data to print yhe actual quantity?
do you have a pic of rear harness with reverse lights??or does anyoneComment
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Re: 65 back up light
if your 65 left st louis with backup lites, then the harness from tranny to the plug off dash harness(top left engine side of firewall) then the wires will both be BLACK with a dark pink stripe on one of the blacks and a lite green strip on the other black wire. the pair of striped wires are molded together. a solid pink/solid green or any combination of colors other than those i described above would indicate service replacement harness/switch. the correct double black with a seperate dark pink and a lite green strip is extremely difficult to find. your picture appears to be a purple and a black but the details in the pic are difficult to interpret. mikeComment
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Re: 65 back up light
Ken-----
Yes, that's exactly where it connects for cars equipped with back-up lights. Are you sure the car was not originally equipped with back-up lights? Someone could easily have changed the lenses and/or other components of the system. I don't know why they'd do this, but who knows?In Appreciation of John HinckleyComment
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Re: 65 back up light
Ken - Joe and Mike have mentioned several important things. In addition, the Z01 package included several significant changes during production including the flasher from 3 lamps to 2 lamps, the rear wiring harness to accommodate the back up lamps, the inboard lamp assemblies from parking/brake lights to back up lght assemblies and the standard mirror to the day/night mirror. A number of these changes are readily doable but I would think you would be able to tell visually (by the installation) if someone had changed the rear wiring harness. Also, I trust changes of the mirror and flasher are to "correct" 1965 components. PeteComment
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Re: 65 back up light
Mike-----
Did 1965's without Z-01 have an unused harness wiring connector near the firewall for the back-up lamp switch? If not, then this car must have originally had back-up lamps.
On the other hand, if all 65's had the connector and this car has no evidence of anything being done to change components to remove the rear portion of the system, then I can only think of 2 possibilities:
1) the switch was installed by mistake at St. Louis;
2) someone decided that they were going to add back-up lamps to the car, added the switch (the easy part), then discovered that there were several other changes to be made (the hard part) and decided to forget the whole idea. It wouldn't be the first time that projects got half-completed when folks find out that they're not as easy/simple as they originally thought.In Appreciation of John HinckleyComment
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Re: 65 back up light
Thanks for all the input guy - when i go to shop on monday morning i will check wiring colors..
does day/night mirror have toggle knob on it - anyone have a pic?Comment
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Re: 65 back up light
Remove the inboard lenses on each side and check the bulbs and sockets. With the standard harness, the sockets and bulbs will have two contacts; those will be sockets and bulbs with a single central contact if the car has the Z01 harness for backup lights. The entire main body harness from the kickpad back was different between standard and Z01; the standard harness had two wires in each connector to the inboard lamps (brown and yellow on the left, brown and dark green on the right), and the Z01 harness had only one light green wire in a single-wire connector to each inboard lamp.Comment
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Re: 65 back up light
i will look on monday - thanks to all - i cant tell from this picture - but it looks like outer socket is double
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Here's the colors that JH describes
this is on a late '65. You can see the single black/green stripe to the B.U. lamp, and if you look closely, you can see the yellow stripe on the LH stop/signal lamp. The brown wire is the running light.
A secondary tidbit, in addition to M. McK's comment about the black wires from the trans switch (one thin pink stripe, the other a thin green stripe). The firewall connection for this harness has matching black (pink/green stripe) wires coming from the main (dash) harness on my early coupe, but SOLID pink/light green on this late convertible. So there must have been a running change in the color of those wires.
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Re: 65 back up light
'64-66 D/N mirror has a knob to switch modes. The knob is grey plastic painted black and exits at the bottom center of the mirror being trapezoidal in shape (sometimes called a 'tear drop' shape) distinguishing it from the L-shaped knob that came along in '67.
The '64-66 version of the mirror had the glass held by a crimp in the SS housing while the '67 and later version mounted the mirror glass on a grey rubber 'insert' whose lip surrounded both the glass and the edges of the SS housing (thwart facial injury potential). No need to supply picture as what Paragon shows in their catalog is correct...Comment
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