67 Judging Guide (New or Same Old?)

[Gerard F.]

Just wondering if somebody is trying to drive me crazy, or if there is a mistake here.

I just got a new addition of the 67 Judging Guide, the one with the yellow revised sheets bound next to the old white sheets. For the life of me (and I'm used to reading a lot of stuff), I can't tell the difference between the yellow sheets and the white sheets, the yellow sheets are just a copies of the white sheets on yellow paper.

So I put the new manual next my two year old one with no yellow sheets. Now I have 3 copies of the same sheets, 2 white and one yellow.

For example, page 88 under Battery Cables and Clips, the callouts for battery cables on a non-AC car on the yellow sheet are:

6286182 positive
2979821 negative

These are the same numbers on the white sheets both in the new and old judging guides, which I thought were incorrect. (The 67 AIM on UPC 12 A6 shows them as 6286180 and 2981079.)

So please !! tell me that I have the wrong yellow sheets, before I go into a looney bin.

Jerry Fuccillo
#42179

[Brian M.]

Re: 67 Judging Guide (New or Same Old?)

What color is the cover of this JG?

[Gerard F.]

Shocking Pink- 4th addition, New and Old *NM*

[Kevin M.]

The web site should have

a members only section that has the most recent JG available. This revised colored pages is bogus I think I'm owed updates that I never knew I could ask for. It could be a living work in progress with new finds and... ahh never mind.

Kevin

[John H.]

Re: 67 Judging Guide (New or Same Old?)

Jerry -

My yellow sheet shows 6180, not 6182, for the positive cable. The white sheet in the previous 4th Edition (without the yellow sheets) showed 6182, which was incorrect (I submitted the correction). My "white" page 88 is a dupe of the new yellow page 88, with the correct part numbers - dunno how that happened.

[Roy B.]

Re: 67 Judging Guide (New or Same Old?)

People here talk about getting a consensus on parts and then writing NCRS team captain's. Because we can now add pic.s and I read about the 67 battery cables how about every one interested post "their" pic. Of what they think is right so those interested can compare .
This could be done with many parts in question

[Michael H.]

Re: 67 Judging Guide (New or Same Old?)

John,

I think I know how the 6286182 part number wound up in the manual. That's the correct number for a big block pos cable. Small block pos was 6286180.

[Gerard F.]

Looks Like I got the wrong yellow sheets.

John,

Thanks for confirming that I'm not going crazy. My yellow sheet in the new JG on page 88, has 6182 for the positive cable, same as the white sheet in the new JG, and same as the white sheet in my old JG. I checked the 12 other yellow sheets in the new JG, and they are identical to the white sheet in the new manual as well as the old.

I'm almost on the floor laughing.

Don't you think they should put a revision date on the yellow sheets, or maybe underline the changes so one can easily tell the difference. Isn't that common sense?

So, I'm still scratching my head about what the changes were to the NEW REVISED 67 Judging Guide. I'll bet the judges are also.

Can anyone send me the right yellow sheets to the 67 Judging Guide, all 13 pages. (32,36,39,41,43,80,82,84,88,108,112,137,141)

Jerry Fuccillo
#42179

[John H.]

Re: Looks Like I got the wrong yellow sheets.

Jerry -

On closer inspection, many of my new yellow sheets are also identical to what is supposed to be the "old" white page too. Here are the changes I can provide, as I submitted several of them.

Page 32 - Revised the coupe interior windshield trim paint color chart and notes to show that the side and upper garnish moldings are white (not blue or black) with the #450 white/blue and #455 white/black 2-tone interiors.

Page 36 - Revised glove compartment contents to include two rubber sealing washers in the cloth bag along with the hardtop wrench for 2-top cars.

Page 39 - Dunno.

Page 41 - Revised console color chart notes to indicate that the parking brake cover is white with the #450 and #455 2-tone white interiors.

Page 43 - Dunno.

Page 80 - Dunno, but the Wire Shield paragraph needs to be revised to show that the top shield upper attachment is with a hex bolt, not a wing nut.

Page 82 - Dunno.

Page 84 - Dunno.

Page 88 - Covered in the thread above.

Page 108 - Dunno.

Page 112 - Dunno.

Page 137 - Revised to indicate that the oil drain plug is 7/8" hex, approximately 1/4" thick (not 3/4" hex, 1/8" thick).

Page 141 - Dunno, but the reference to "mitted" and "entire upper surface" needs to be eliminated.

[Gerard F.]

Re: Looks Like I got the wrong yellow sheets.

Thanks John for confirming this matter. I guess I'm not going crazy after all.

I have emailed Keith Biggers and Roy Sinor about this, hoping to correct the matter for future publications. I wonder how many of these new revised Judging Guides were sent out with incorrect information.

Don't you think that ought to put a revision date or number on each revised sheet, so that someone knows what he has and the printer knows what to print?

Jerry Fuccillo
#42179

[John H.]

Re: Looks Like I got the wrong yellow sheets.

Jerry -

Yup, I agree - the next full revision is supposed to revert back to having the section identified at the top of each page as well - made it a lot easier to find things; that was supposed to be done for the 4th Edition, but it didn't happen. Don't know why.

[Harmon C.]

Re: Looks Like I got the wrong yellow sheets.

John
My idea on TI&JG is the word program changes and we get new computers and the information gets mixed up or lost in printing. I have helped and had it close to correct on 73-74 manual only to have the new copy all messed up. I am not sure how to fix the problem.

Lyle