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  • Louis T.
    Very Frequent User
    • August 1, 2003
    • 282

    #1

    C2 Radiator Cap Ratings (Orig. vs. Serv. Repl.)

    Forgetting (for a moment) about correctly-coded radiator caps, as they came from the factory...

    You're all probably going to think I am nuts, but I e-mailed Stant to point out what I interpreted as a mistake I happened to notice in their radiator cap applications catalog. I had been trying to look up my '65 327, for which they listed 2 caps rated at 16 psi. I contacted them to let them know that midyears never had a 16 psi cap and that the applications as I knew them (and courtesy of L.I. Corvette Supply's catalog) were:

    13 psi (1963 327 all, 1964-5 327 no AC, 396)
    15 psi (1964-5 327 AC, 1966-7 327, 427)

    They promptly responded as follows:

    "...all radiator pressure caps are built in opening ranges. The range for the pressure cap for the 1965 Corvette is 14-18 psi. GM designates their cap in this range as a 15 psi cap. Ford and Chrysler designate it as a 16 psi cap. Stant has chosen to use the mid-point of the range as the opening designation for their cap, 16 psi."

    I guess I can accept their response as to labeling convention in the case of 15 psi caps (although I always thought a rating corresponded to the psi a cap should hold BEFORE starting to open), but this doesn't address 13 psi caps.

    So now I'll get to my question, which relates to GM Service Replacement caps...

    We know that 327s went from 13 psi to 15 psi based on AC sometime in 1964 and all beginning with 1966. After that, once GM's supply of 13 psi caps were used up, did they begin issuing 15 psi Service Replacements (based on real world feedback and/or engineering rethink) for all 327 cars previously supplied with a 13 psi cap from the factory? Or did they continue to recommend and issue 13s for cars that came with 13s and 15s for cars that came with 15s? If the latter, what was different in terms of mechanical parts or timing, carb, etc., settings between, e.g., a 350 HP 327 (non AC) in '65 requiring a 13 psi cap and the '66 or '67 version requiring a 15 psi cap?

    Any thoughts and/or recollections would be appreciated.

    Louis
  • Jack H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 1, 1990
    • 9893

    #2
    Re: C2 Radiator Cap Ratings (Orig. vs. Serv. Repl.

    Even Chevy couldn't make up their mind! The mid model year introduction of the L78 BB effective made the existing owner's manuals obsolete in certain sections. Instead of revising the owner's manual, they included an errata sheet and it defines the BB rad cap as 15 lbs but they only installed 13 lb caps on the line in St. Louis...

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 42936

      #3
      Re: C2 Radiator Cap Ratings (Orig. vs. Serv. Repl.

      Louis-----

      Stant's response is an excellent one. In fact, it's one of the better responses that I've seen when contacting a manufacturer regarding product specs. To expect that these caps were originally or currently manufactured with such precision that they would open at PRECISELY the pressure specified on the cap is wishful thinking.

      As far as the 13 lb versus the 15 lb thing is concerned, the application listing you quoted from the LI Catalog is correct. However, the 13 lb cap was discontinued from SERVICE in April, 1974 and replaced by the 15 lb cap. So, from a functional perspective, GM approves the use of the 15 lb cap for all applications originally using the 13 lb cap.
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Louis T.
        Very Frequent User
        • August 1, 2003
        • 282

        #4
        Re: C2 Radiator Cap Ratings (Orig. vs. Serv. Repl.

        Thanks for the info, Jack. So you're saying they continued to install 13 psi caps in 396 cars even after they made the decision to go to 15s on "paper" - so to speak. (This explains why the '65 Judging Guide looks for 307 13 psi caps for all cars.) Was that just sloppy assembly line procedure (e.g., engineering not getting the word out), were the 15s on backorder, or were they just trying to get rid of the 13s in stock?

        Louis

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        • Louis T.
          Very Frequent User
          • August 1, 2003
          • 282

          #5
          Re: C2 Radiator Cap Ratings (Orig. vs. Serv. Repl.

          Thanks, Joe.

          Louis

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