66 & 67 AIM's - Missing Pages

[Henry J.]

My 66 and 67 AIM's are missing a few pages. I checked with a friend and his 66 and 67 AIM's are missing the very same pages!

For 1966, the missing pages are: UPC 1 A3, UPC 1 A4, UPC 11-13 B1.

For 1967, the missing pages are: UPC 0 F1, UPC 1 B12, UPC 9 A1, UPC 9 A2, UPC 9 A5, UPC A31 A2.

Are these normally missing?

Thanks for your help.

[Michael H.]

Re: 66 & 67 AIM's - Missing Pages

Henry,

The same sheets are missing from my old copy of the 66 AIM. I have an original 66 AIM and the sheets are missing from it also, even though it has several other sheets that the reproduction/copies do not.

I don't have a 67 AIM.

[Stephen L.]

Re: 66 & 67 AIM's - Missing Pages

My AIM copy, vintage early 1980's is missing those pages also. Probably info from the early C2's that no longer applied to the later ones so the pages were deleted.....

[Art A.]

Re: 66 & 67 AIM's - Missing Pages

I think you will find that they are missing from all of the REPORDUCED copies that were copied from the GM shelf copies...................as I have said in the past the reproduced copies that are out there were not from the MASTER set and are incomplete.
They are not missing because they longer applied to the later ones so the pages were deleted. If a process was deleted their should still be a page in there but it would have CANCELLED stamped across it.

Pure and simple.................the AIMs that were reproduced in the late 70's were incomplete in many ways. If you ever get the chance to see a COMPLETE MASTER edition you will have a better understanding of just how bad the repro's are.

Art

[John H.]

Re: 66 & 67 AIM's - Missing Pages

Art's on the money, as usual. Over the last fifteen years or so, I've consolidated my '65 and '67 manuals from copies from three or four different sources to "fill in the holes", and even after all that, I'm missing exactly the same sheets noted in the post above.

We're fortunate to have what we DO have - the Ford and Mopar guys would KILL to have assembly manuals.

[Art A.]

Re: 66 & 67 AIM's - Missing Pages

When GM packaged up the Corvette AIM's to send to Mid America all the rest, Camaro,Chevelle, Corvair, Passenger car,etc, and all the Truck lines went into a dumpster.......sad but true.

Art

[Terry M.]

Re: 66 & 67 AIM's - Missing Pages

Someone got some of them. I have a 1967 Chevelle AIM, and other years of the RWD A-body AIMS are for sale. I have also seen first gen Camaro AIMS for sale at swap meets.

[Art A.]

Re: 66 & 67 AIM's - Missing Pages

Terry, I'm sure that some other vehicle lines are available but it is hit and miss. I saw the majority of the "other" vehicle line AIM's, that were considered to be the (hard copy) working copies from the Records Retention Dept **** canned. I was working in the legal Department at the time and we had to authorize the transfer of AIM's to Mid America and only the Corvette books were sent to them.
The AIMs were distributed through out the corporation, especially within Engineering, not just to the plants, and the ones you have seen could have come from one of many location within GM.

Art

[Geoff C.]

[Art A.]

Re: AIM's - Missing more than just Pages

Actually I think this is one subject that I know more about than you. The hard copy Corvette AIM's were GIVEN to Mid America with no strings attached.....well almost, GM directed M.A. to block out all the revision blocks before they sold them. In fact GM even supplied them with a "mask" to put over the revision block. M.A. did not use the mask, but GM never pursued it. Their was no financial deal with GM (I don't know exactly when EMI took effect, but this item was not thru them)as GM just wanted them to go to a good home.
M.A. did not have exclusive usage of these manuals, so anybody who wanted to get in on the action just bought a copy from M.A.and did their own thing.

The problem with all of the companies reproducing them was that they had no clue what they were looking at and therefore put pages in the wrong place or didn't know enough when pages were missing.............which resulted in many mistakes. Plus, as I have said, these were working copies that many GM engineers had been rummaging thru for reference and weren't in the best of condition when M.A. originally got them.

Yes, As an employee I also brought home MANY drawings .....................but they are just for my own personal use and I would never consider being a ***** and making reproductions.

Art

[Geoff C.]

[Michael H.]

Re: AIM's - Missing more than just Pages

Yup, the "*****s" are the guys that HAVE the parts, paperwork or cars and the "good guys" are the guys that want it. The guys that HAVE it always want some outrageous amount of money. Then a few years later, one of the "good guys" winds up with one of the items and he wants three times as much as the first guy. I guess it all depends on who holds the goods. I think the people that DON'T have the goods are jealous.

The $60,000 price tag is outrageous though.

[Art A.]

Re: AIM's - Missing more than just Pages

I agree Michael, I couldn't have said it better.

Unless the $60,000 makes the car worth 1/2 mill......or more.

[Geoff C.]

[Chris H.]

Re: AIM's - GM drawing database.

Maybe off the subject a bit but is there somewhere that OEM drawings are kept for all to use? When I was doing a bit of work on my 62 back in 91 or so I would pull all the drawings of the parts I was working on including fasteners. I have a pile about 10" tall of folded aperture prints. I would be willing to go get them copied and send the copies to somewhere for all to use.

Perhaps the museum? If not maybe someone could keep a database of parts drawings and who has them? Perhaps the NCRS could do this?

Chris