Re: C2: Cast Date vs Stamp Date

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  • Douglas C.
    Very Frequent User
    • October 1, 1988
    • 208

    #1

    Re: C2: Cast Date vs Stamp Date

    For a #870, 327 block, what would be considered typical for the number of days the stamping pad date should exceed the casting date for the block. What would be considered the minimum number of days between these two dates?

    Thanks,

    Doug, #13646
  • Dennis C.
    NCRS Past Judging Chairman
    • January 1, 1984
    • 2409

    #2
    Typical: 2-3 weeks. Minimum: 1-2 days...JMHO *NM*

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    • Terry R.
      Expired
      • March 1, 2005
      • 359

      #3
      Re: C2: Cast Date vs Stamp Date

      My '62 was seven days.

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      • William C.
        NCRS Past President
        • June 1, 1975
        • 6037

        #4
        Re: C2: Cast Date vs Stamp Date

        In occasional circumstances of chance, same day is possible and has been documented. Blocks were trucked from saginaw to Flint (about 35 miles) all day and night, and inventory management was practiced only to the extent of having "enough" to keep the lines running at Flint, without regard for stock rotation.
        Bill Clupper #618

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        • Gerard F.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 1, 2004
          • 3803

          #5
          Re: C2: Cast Date vs Stamp Date

          My 67 was 4 days. June 22 to June 26.

          Jerry Fuccillo
          #42179
          Jerry Fuccillo
          1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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          • Rick S.
            Expired
            • January 1, 2003
            • 1203

            #6
            Re: C2: Cast Date vs Stamp Date

            My 67 small block was from May 31,1967 to June 5, 1967.
            Rick

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            • Dave McDufford

              #7
              Re: C2: Cast Date vs Stamp Date

              My 65 small block was cast June 14, 1965 and built (stamped) June 15, 1965. The stamp looks ok and passed judging.

              Dave

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              • Gerard F.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • July 1, 2004
                • 3803

                #8
                Re: C2: Cast Date vs Stamp Date

                Rick,

                My body assembly, engine assembly, and final assembly including the engine casting and transmission all were within 10 days, June 19, 1967 to June 29, 1967.

                The only anomolies were the rear end (dated 06/14/67) and the intake manifold dated July 02, 1966 (G26), yes 1966. They must have been scratching for intake manifolds at the end of production.

                Jerry Fuccillo
                #42179
                Jerry Fuccillo
                1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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                • Rick S.
                  Expired
                  • January 1, 2003
                  • 1203

                  #9
                  Re: C2: Cast Date vs Stamp Date

                  Jerry,
                  My body build date is June 16, engine cast & assembly is 5-31 & 6-5-67, heads are 3-1 & 3-14-67, exhaust manifolds are 5-24 & 5-25, distrib is 4-17-67, starter 5-9-67,water pump 4-11-67, carb is a service replacement.The trans and rear end are both 6-8-67. I haven't had the intake manifold off to check for a date. Alternator is 3-28-67. The two birthday calculators indicate 6-17-67 and 6-19-67. The car was delivered on 7-22-67 in Charlotte,NC. Interesting stuff when you start putting all these dates together.
                  Regards,
                  Rick

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                  • John H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • December 1, 1997
                    • 16513

                    #10
                    Re: C2: Cast Date vs Stamp Date

                    Jerry -

                    Your July '66 327/300 intake date for a late '67 car is normal for that era - see my article entitled "'67 327/300 Intake Survey" on page 22 in the Winter, 2003 issue of the "Restorer" (Vol. 29, #3). This issue was added in the 4th Edition JG, and the date anomaly should get no deduction.

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                    • Gerard F.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • July 1, 2004
                      • 3803

                      #11
                      Re: C2: Cast Date vs Stamp Date

                      Rick,

                      It is kind of interesting that your engine and chassis assembly was waiting on the body, whereas my June 19, 67 body(AO Smith) was waiting on the 6-26-67 engine. Delivery date on mine was 7/15/67 in Scranton, PA, per the POP.
                      vin 22049 (6/29/67 assembly) Your Vin must be just under mine, probably very near John Hinckley's.

                      Regards,

                      Jerry Fuccillo
                      #42179
                      Jerry Fuccillo
                      1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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                      • Rick S.
                        Expired
                        • January 1, 2003
                        • 1203

                        #12
                        Re: C2: Cast Date vs Stamp Date

                        Jerry,
                        It is a StLouis body # 8822, VIN:21135. I have a misstamped (typo) color code on my trim tag that Al Grenning uses in his seminars. All other documents/info substaniate Goodwood Green (POP, build sheet and original owner statement). The trim tag indicates 984 but should read 983, off by one digit!!

                        Rick

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                        • Joe R.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • March 1, 2002
                          • 1350

                          #13
                          Re: C2: Cast Date vs Stamp Date

                          My April 67 small block was cast AND assembled on the same day, March 17. This may seem odd, but as Bill Clupper notes it is known to have occurred due to the fact that the casting facility at Saginaw ran around the clock and castings were trucked continuously to Flint, which was about 45 minutes away. My block was cast during the first hour of the first shift at Saginaw, so it was well positioned for a same-day assembly.

                          If you have Noland Adams' C2 book there are survey results in the back that show the casting and assembly dates for a few hundred cars. As I recall, the typical interval in that survey is two or three days, but there is quite a range. There was no first-in-first-out inventory management system in 1967.

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