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  • Roy B.
    Expired
    • February 1, 1975
    • 7044

    Curious

    In a later posting I asked about the banjo's housing of C1's difference's from a Posi and non-Posi housing's . I see as always if the JG don't mention the different design's like many other items no one cares till it's in the JG.
    Or every ones knows but me and it's not just the vent line or baffles inside!

    Why are axle retainers different?????????




  • Wayne P.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • August 31, 1975
    • 1025

    #2
    Re: Curious

    I don't know why the axles are different. I never knew this until you posted it recently. I have put posi's in non-posi carriers without any trouble on several occasions. I doubt this would be a judged item as it would be difficult to see under the car.

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    • Roy B.
      Expired
      • February 1, 1975
      • 7044

      #3
      Re: Curious

      But they do judge shocks.wheels,tail pips,undercoating and so on.

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      • Roy B.
        Expired
        • February 1, 1975
        • 7044

        #4
        Re: Curious(wayne)

        E-mail me direct and I'll tell you how to tell, no use wasting space here, your the only one to responed or interested. braatz@fsaccess.net

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        • Dave Suesz

          #5

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          • Terry D.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • May 31, 1987
            • 2690

            #6
            Re: Curious(wayne)

            Roy
            Go ahead and waste the space, just because some of us did not respond doesn't mean we don't want to know. Many things factor into not responding, I for one would like to know.
            Terry

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            • Roy B.
              Expired
              • February 1, 1975
              • 7044

              #7
              Re: Curious(wayne)

              For example a-
              1957-1958 Banjo was #3739688 (without P/Trac)
              1957-1958 Banjo was #3744927 (with P/Trac)
              We know the vent was redesigned as well as adding inside baffles but-
              The end casting was also redesigned for a Posi banjo for the larger and wider bearing, also causing a shorter axle so looking at the casting end of the Banjo you can tell weather it is an original Posi Banjo.
              If I'm wrong that is why I was asking members!

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              • Roy B.
                Expired
                • February 1, 1975
                • 7044

                #8
                Re: Curious(wayne)

                In 1991 I put this out before any one repro'ed them




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                • Roy B.
                  Expired
                  • February 1, 1975
                  • 7044

                  #9
                  Re: Curious(wayne)

                  Told people about them in 1989 , dont know weather they still carry them
                  Allied Bearing Sales Inc.
                  L.A (213)837-0752 or (800)421-3658
                  Cost less then $100 then , now I dont know!




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                  • Roy B.
                    Expired
                    • February 1, 1975
                    • 7044

                    #10
                    Re: Curious(wayne)

                    OK no more, I must be bored




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                    • Michael H.
                      Expired
                      • January 29, 2008
                      • 7477

                      #11
                      Re: Curious(wayne)

                      I disagree, completely, with the recommendation to use tapered roller bearings that are set to zero end play. Tapered roller bearings that do not run in a refreshing supply of lubricant must be run with a clearance. Tapered roller pinion bearings can be set at zero, in fact loaded slightly, because of the constant supply of oil but tapered roller design wheel bearings that use grease as their lubricant cannot.

                      Ball bearings are supposed to be set at zero for C1 cars. This style bearing has a completely different method of relubricating itself as it rotates.

                      If bearing end play in a tapered roller bearing is an issue, which it really isn't if set properly, you can remove all but .001". A typical running clearance for tapered roller wheel bearings would be .001" to .007".

                      I know a few people that made the change from ball to roller bearings on their C1 and no one was impressed. In fact, they couldn't tell the difference.

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                      • Roy B.
                        Expired
                        • February 1, 1975
                        • 7044

                        #12
                        Re: Curious(Michael)

                        OK !you may feel correct, but I've done and have them in my 55 my way for 20 years and still going and have noticed the improvement. I never told any one they had too.

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