68 Oil Filter , PF-25 or PF29 ?

[Kurt B.]

I have been searching for a white AC PF-25 oil filter for my 68 small block but heard today from a reputable NCRS member that possibly a revised Judging Manual will shortly list the PF-29 as correct for my L79 motor.
Since the prices for white AC embossed oil filters are astronomical, I would like to confirm which is the correct filter for my car before I make a purchase.
Can anyone confirm or deny the change from PF-25 to PF-29.
The 3rd edition of the 68-69 Judging Manual presently lists the PF-25.
Thank you in advance for any input,
Kurt

[Michael H.]

Re: 68 Oil Filter , PF-25 or PF29 ?

Kurt,

I don't remember the number for the 68 only one quart filter but it was definitely unique to 68. Believe the short PF-25 was for 69 and later.

[Dick W.]

Re: 68 Oil Filter , PF-25 or PF29 ?

The next version of the '68-'69 manual will list the PF-29. There will be a repro PF-29 on the market sometime next year. I think actually the very early '68's could have actually come with a PF-11, but we have been unable to verify this.

[Kurt B.]

Re: 68 Oil Filter , PF-25 or PF29 ?

Thank you Dick.
Are the PF-29 filters available and do they look like the PF-25 , white with red and blue lettering?
I ask so I will know what to look for.
You saved me from buying the wrong thing and I assume that if my car is judged and I use the PF 29 I will receive full credit even though at this time I am incorrect according to the latest judging manual (3rd edition)
I don't want to have a conflict with a judge over the filter.
Kurt
Kurt

[John D.]

Re: 68 Oil Filter , PF-25 or PF29 ?

Kurt, Never assume nothing. Ask your team leader how he is going to handle the situation. Charles is a pretty fair guy though so you shouldn't have any problem. I had a judge at the Marlborough regional recently that dinged me on my copper plated steel oil line going to the oil gauge because the manual said it was copper. Talking about my 63. The judge said that he knew the line was supposed to be copper plated steel. Agreed with me 1000%. But he said he went by the manual. Jr knew he was in big trouble then. Luckily only lost 8 points under the hood. Two for the "copper" oil line. So be careful. If Charles gives you any trouble tell Dickie about it. John

[Michael H.]

Re: 68 Oil Filter , PF-25 or PF29 ?

John,

If the 63-64 judge that deducted points on your oil pressure ga line knew the manual was wrong, but deducted points anyway, then he doesn't understand the system. The Judging Guide is just that, a guide, not the law. There shouldn't have been a deduction.

If a scan of an early parts book page showing the two different oil filters for 68 and 69 is presented to the judge, I'm sure he will agree with the different filters for each model year.

[Dick W.]

Re: 68 Oil Filter , PF-25 or PF29 ?

Kurt, I do not believe that at this time you will have any problems with a PF-25 or a PF-29 (at least at a Regional or the National Convention). Somewhere in the future the 29 will be the accepted filter for the '68. Just an ongoing evolution of the knowledge about the cars. But then again, the more I learn about a '68, the more I realize how little I know.

[Kurt B.]

Thanks to all, for the replies *NM*

[Kurt B.]

I bet Joe Lucia has a case of both filters

in his personal inventory.
Now if we could only get into the fortress, we would be all set.
Kurt

[Joe L.]

Re: 68 Oil Filter , PF-25 or PF29 ?

Kurt-----

The PF-29 is just about the same size/configuration as the later PF-35, as pictured in Dick's photo.

It does not have the embossed script on the bottom.

I agree with Dick-----I think that it's very possible that early 68's used the PF-11. I also think that it's very possible that early 1969's used the PF-29.

[Joe L.]

Re: I bet Joe Lucia has a case of both filters

Kurt-----

I don't have a case of each, but I do have a "lifetime+ supply".

[Kurt B.]

I knew it *NM*

[Kurt B.]

Re: 68 Oil Filter , PF-25 or PF29 ?

My problem is I don't know which of these ridiculously expensive filters to buy as I am in a points chase for flight judging and don't want to buy the wrong filter, spend a basket of cash, and have a judge rule against me. It's a sizeable expense for a few points, but they all add up.
So, I still don't know if I need the PF-25 or PF-29 (whihc will be the coming standard) and I am awaiting a reply from Chuck Berge, 68-69 Team Leader.
Kurt

[Clem Z.]

get it in print signed in blood. *NM*

[Kurt B.]

Re: get it in print signed in blood.

You are close to the truth Clem. I have heard of people who changed parts based on what one judge said, only to have another judge tell them that what was previously on the car was correct and should not have been removed. That's why I am trying to nail this down so there is no quibbling. I don't want to make a career out of getting this car correct. It has already been a 10 year long process.
Kurt