If you've already read that thread and moved on, I'd appreciate it if you'd scroll down to that and read my comment at the end. FWIW Mike Ernst
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Did so, and I agree. Ayone who has
served on these teams (58-60, 61-2, 63-4) knows that it is not easy. I was fortunate enough to serve on Keith Kibbe's 61-2 team that took input from EVERYBODY on issue "X" and Judy put it out there so we could all comment. We did this a # of times - and not everybody was TOTALLY happy with the result - but when Keith turned it in, Sam Folz and the other "powers-that-be" were floored and declared it to be the model and example that would be used in the future.
We have now reached the stage where I am aware of "Team Leaders" who do NOT participate in the amendment process - but insist that their ego wants to continue to be "the guy".
I STILL like Kibbe's methods - take all of the comments in - spell out all of the comments to everyone - AND MAKE THEM THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING BEFORE THEY AGREE OR DISAGREE - and when you move to the next stage with what 7-8 guys who are knowledgable to begin with
agreed, you've got a pretty good bridge to start building railings on.
Understand what you are doing - like it or not, you're setting the standards and they had better be right - or as close as you can get. For those who attend and view Bloomington as the ideal - they do a helluva job, more quickly than NCRS, but never lose sight of the fact that underneath the sheets on the clipboard, that Bloomington judge has the current NCRS manual - and there's more than an 80% chance that he has had input into that NCRS manual.
Good job of attention getting, Michael. I'll say "Hello" for you tomorrow when I see Noland and John Kennedy in Scottsdale. -
Did so, and I agree. Ayone who has
served on these teams (58-60, 61-2, 63-4) knows that it is not easy. I was fortunate enough to serve on Keith Kibbe's 61-2 team that took input from EVERYBODY on issue "X" and Judy put it out there so we could all comment. We did this a # of times - and not everybody was TOTALLY happy with the result - but when Keith turned it in, Sam Folz and the other "powers-that-be" were floored and declared it to be the model and example that would be used in the future.
We have now reached the stage where I am aware of "Team Leaders" who do NOT participate in the amendment process - but insist that their ego wants to continue to be "the guy".
I STILL like Kibbe's methods - take all of the comments in - spell out all of the comments to everyone - AND MAKE THEM THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING BEFORE THEY AGREE OR DISAGREE - and when you move to the next stage with what 7-8 guys who are knowledgable to begin with
agreed, you've got a pretty good bridge to start building railings on.
Understand what you are doing - like it or not, you're setting the standards and they had better be right - or as close as you can get. For those who attend and view Bloomington as the ideal - they do a helluva job, more quickly than NCRS, but never lose sight of the fact that underneath the sheets on the clipboard, that Bloomington judge has the current NCRS manual - and there's more than an 80% chance that he has had input into that NCRS manual.
Good job of attention getting, Michael. I'll say "Hello" for you tomorrow when I see Noland and John Kennedy in Scottsdale.Comment
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Re: On-line image archive
I wish we could edit posts here...
Having gone back and re-read my post above, it appeared to me that I was some how taking credit for the entire list of ideas in the post. I'd like to clarify that the list as it was presented is a both a gathering of input from others on the topic beginning from Russ's post a couple of days ago with a couple of my own thoughts sprinkled here and there.
I've now copied those posts in a word file, but we certaining still need the details as to how we support follow through on these items.
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Re: On-line image archive
I wish we could edit posts here...
Having gone back and re-read my post above, it appeared to me that I was some how taking credit for the entire list of ideas in the post. I'd like to clarify that the list as it was presented is a both a gathering of input from others on the topic beginning from Russ's post a couple of days ago with a couple of my own thoughts sprinkled here and there.
I've now copied those posts in a word file, but we certaining still need the details as to how we support follow through on these items.
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