real GF-416 ?

[Tracy C.]

Anyone like to comment on the fuel filter at this link? I've never seen fittings that looked that small and long. I was under the impression the 416 had much larger fittings.

How would these compare to a correct GF-90? (I know about the notches on service replacments)

tc




GF-416?

[William C.]

Re: real GF-416 ?

Length of the hex section is the most obvious physical difference between GF-90 and GF-416. This one looks pretty good from what I see.

[Tracy C.]

Re: real GF-416 ?

Thanks, Do you know the wrench size for the GF-90 fitting?

[Eric J.]

picture of filter from listing *NM*

[John M.]

Re: real GF-416 ?

The filter in question was removed from a 1965 Impala 396 - 425HP, I think I was the first to ever remove the filter, the wrench size is 5/8 and the nuts are .875 long...Thanks JOHN

[Dick W.]

Re: real GF-416 ?

TC looks like the NOS one that I bought from Charlie Stewart many years ago (NOT FOR SALE)

[Wayne M.]

It's genuine .. hex same but threading different

I bid on John M's unit, but it ended just a little pricier than my limit (I got mine [in pic] at $103.96 a few years ago -- coincidental ?)

Biggest difference is overall length (4" vs. 4_3/4). (click on link below).


Hex is same, but thread size is different. Also, notice the fine series of the letter "B" stamped along the top flat of the GF-416. The can size is exactly the same. Also, it's either my imagination or all real GF-416's have an almost imperceptible bend on one end of the hex at the outlet of the can. Don't know if this was part of design or a fault of manufacture.

Breath of fresh air to see this unit go through eBay. Too many GF-90 fakes selling for too much money.

[Tracy C.]

Re: It's genuine .. hex same but threading differe

Thanks the pic Wayne, This clears it up for me!

tc

[Bill W.]

Re: real GF-416 ?

It looks like my nos filter inc. the black overspray on the fittings.

[Verle R.]

Re: real GF-416 ?

This is the original GF-416 I removed from my 65 L79, late Feb build date.

There are no letters or numbers on the inlet or outlet. It has the large threads.

Wayne, please provide more description of the "imperceptable bend" on the outlet.

Why do we save these old parts removed years ago?

Verle

[Wayne M.]

Re: real GF-416 ?

Hi Verle --- I noticed the slight bend downward on the inlet fitting, probably where it connects to the can, at the inlet (left side) when viewing the filter with the lettering centered in your line of vision. In fact, I can see the dip in the picture of your filter [unless I've already had one too many]. As a check, I balanced mine on a flat table top, and rotated while observing the outlet can surface. Sure enough, there is a non-alignment (my guess at 1 degree of so).

At first I thought mine had been dropped and bent, but when I saw others on eBay (I have pics of about a dozen), I could see the same effect. Then (after I already had mine) one of the more ethical eBay sellers actually mentioned the bend (probably so that winners wouldn't complain) and also mentioned the row of letter "B"s on one of the inlet hex flats. I checked mine and sure enough ! It's VERY faint. Also, the outlet hex fitting is the side that usually has more black overspray.

Although mine has a lot of "drawer or shelf" rash, it was sold as NOS (no box), and I believe the guy, as there is NO evidence that anything has been screwed into those fittings, and the inside looks clean as a whistle.

Why do we accumulate and/or keep this stuff ? Well, it doesn't take up much room .

[Verle R.]

Re: real GF-416 ?

Wayne,

Ok, I understand what you mean. Yes, the fitting is slightly bent. I'm not sure I didn't do that taking it off, been too long. I wonder if the alignment of the mounting bracket positions the filter so the gas line is not quite lined up? The filter can is pretty flexable at that point so it would be easy to bend the fitting one way or another.

My wife keeps saying, with some justification, that I am a pack rat. I have accumulated so much "stuff" it is incredable. I have started selling parts that I no longer have any use for to fund ongoing restoration projects. I'll keep this filter because I still have the car it came on, that I bought new.

Verle