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  • Jim R.
    Very Frequent User
    • July 1, 2001
    • 620

    #1

    C2 weatherstrip glue

    How did the factory apply the glue, were the doors and decklid in place, what size brush did they use ,i know when i took my car apart the application was very sloppy some areas the glue proceeded almost a inch from the rubber weatherstrip,it looks to me like it was done in a very rushed manner,and how did they get at the bottom side of the decklid and forward edge of the doors , that guy or gal must have been fast slopping that brush ,too bad there isnt any factory photos of this ,it would be interesting to see.please share your thoughts .
    JR
  • Bill W.
    Very Frequent User
    • November 1, 1977
    • 398

    #2
    Re: C2 weatherstrip glue

    Howdy Jim,

    Installing the w/strips is a messy job, the only good news it the factory was messy also. Weatherstrips were installed after the paint shop, so doors and deck lid were in place. I believe they used a 1" brush to apply the glue. Once you have checked your w/strips for fit and done any t******* required, start at the top/back of the door (you have a conv. right?) applying 3M cement, go all the way around the door. I would have some "remover" handy for when you get a little on the body around the front of the door. After the cement is applyed to the door, apply a second coat to the mating surface only on the w/strip and begin placing it on the door. The cement takes a while to dry so you have time. Also, when applying the cement to the w/strip it will work better if you only apply a foot or so at a time, then install. When the two cemented surfaces come in contact there will be VERY LITTLE adjustment possible, so make sure of your fit first. Try not to be to neat! Good luck, Bill

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    • Jim R.
      Very Frequent User
      • July 1, 2001
      • 620

      #3
      Re: C2 weatherstrip glue

      Thanks you very much bill, will that remover also remove paint, what kind of remover did you use what brand.
      JR

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      • Wayne K.
        Expired
        • December 1, 1999
        • 1030

        #4
        3M is one brand of weatherstrip glue remover and..

        it will not harm the paint.

        Wayne

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        • Jim R.
          Very Frequent User
          • July 1, 2001
          • 620

          #5
          Re: 3M is one brand of weatherstrip glue remover a

          Thanks wayne ,is the 3m glue ok to use, thats what i have is the yellow/gold color
          JR

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          • Wayne K.
            Expired
            • December 1, 1999
            • 1030

            #6
            Re: 3M is one brand of weatherstrip glue remover a

            Yes. As I recall the factory glue was a yellowish color as well. I'm not into the judging thing so someone that is will hopefully respond if that is a concern of yours.

            Wayne

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            • Dick W.
              Former NCRS Director Region IV
              • July 1, 1985
              • 10485

              #7
              Re: 3M is one brand of weatherstrip glue remover a

              3M used to have a brushable weatherstrip adheasive in their product line. It has been discontinued however. I use contact cement purchased at Lowe's. Use an acid brush to apply. Color is very close to what Generous Motors used.
              Dick Whittington

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              • Anthony F.
                Expired
                • December 1, 1985
                • 191

                #8
                Re: 3M is one brand of weatherstrip glue remover a

                Jim,

                You question the manner that weathers were installed in the plant.

                Set one the weather seals where pre-glued by running them through a air operated, manually controlled gluing machine. It had a reservoir of thinned glue with an application wheel installed. Above that was a grooved metal guide for the weather seal to slide through. The weather seal would be put in this groove and a lever would pull down another wheel to rest on top of the seal. The wheels where gear driven so that when the two wheels touched the seal it would propel the weather seal through the machine installing a coat of glue. These seals would then be hung on a “T” rack to dry prior to installing them to a car.

                Step two was when a car came by the operator he would use a 1 in wide brush with bristles about 1 in long a hand held cup of thinned glue to wet the door, deck lid or hood edges with the glue prior to sticking the weather seal to the body. There where no body covers except for the deck lid area to keep the glue off the paint. The body cover for the deck lid was usually made of cardboard because it was easily replaceable and it was cut to fit the opening of the deck.

                Deck Lid seals where folded in half and installed at the center of the lid working outward to the ends taking up the slack in the seal.
                Door weather seals for the coupes where cut to fit as they where installed.
                Convertibles where glided at each end the positioned around the door to take up the slack.

                Yes the glue was just as hard to apply then as it is today due to the tight fit of the panels around the deck lid. When I glue the weather seals to deck lids I make sure to cover the body with something that thinner will not go through. The reason is because I thin my 3M adhesives (Yellow Death) using a fast lacquer thinner. This is not recommended by 3M as I called them to try an find a thinning agent that they would recommend and they responded, Not Recommended.

                What we used in the plant was thick and we had to thin it for many different usages. I can not remember the product number or source of the yellow glue we used or the thinner. The glue that holds the insulation mat to the underside of the firewall is the same glue with less thinner and was pressured sprayed from a 10 gal paint pot. This method was also used for carpets and header panel on the coupes.

                I hope this help you with a little insight of how it was when it was.

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                • Dick W.
                  Former NCRS Director Region IV
                  • July 1, 1985
                  • 10485

                  #9
                  Re: 3M is one brand of weatherstrip glue remover a

                  3M weatherstrip adhesive remover also works good to thin the adhesive
                  Dick Whittington

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                  • John H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • December 1, 1997
                    • 16513

                    #10
                    Re: 3M is one brand of weatherstrip glue remover a

                    If you're installing new weatherstrips, be sure and wipe off the rubber surface where you're going to apply the adhesive first with alcohol and follow with a clean rag to remove the mold release compound, or the glue won't stick very well.

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                    • Christopher R.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • April 1, 1975
                      • 1593

                      #11
                      Re: 3M is one brand of weatherstrip glue remover a

                      I too remember calling it "yellow death", but I don't remember why. Why was it called that? Is this the stuff no longer made by 3M?

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                      • Jim R.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • July 1, 2001
                        • 620

                        #12
                        Re: 3M is one brand of weatherstrip glue remover a

                        Thanks a bunch tony, i didnt expect such a great response ,you could not have done any better than this. jim
                        JR

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                        • Brad K.
                          Expired
                          • September 1, 1990
                          • 413

                          #13
                          Re: 3M is one brand of weatherstrip glue remover a

                          Everyone where I come from calls the stuff "Gorilla Snot" because it's nearly impossible to get get it off of anything it comes in contact with.

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