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  • Gary N.
    Infrequent User
    • July 31, 2001
    • 24

    #16
    Re: Who owns the problem when the paint job bliste

    Ther is an offer on the table to give a replacement panel. What about all of the other cost associated with fixing the car?

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    • Gary N.
      Infrequent User
      • July 31, 2001
      • 24

      #17
      Re: Who owns the problem when the paint job bliste

      Ther is an offer on the table to give a replacement panel. What about all of the other cost associated with fixing the car?

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      • Gary N.
        Infrequent User
        • July 31, 2001
        • 24

        #18
        Re: Who owns the problem when the paint job bliste

        The letters J and or G creates a blank Corvette Image in my mind .

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        • Gary N.
          Infrequent User
          • July 31, 2001
          • 24

          #19
          Re: Who owns the problem when the paint job bliste

          You thinking is right where mine is, but before I started down this road I wanted to get some feedback from yourself and others to make sure I was doing the right thing.

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          • Chuck S.
            Expired
            • April 1, 1992
            • 4668

            #20
            Not In My Opinion...

            Unlike those two vendors, there is no effort by this vendor to defraud. This vendor provides a unique service to the Corvette community in accurate reproduction panels, and I would hate to see his business ruined by anything said on the internet. I have supported this vendor in the past, and I will continue to buy materials from him, in spite of this avoidable difficulty, because they are the best available.

            This is a legitimate manufacturing problem, but it seems to occur frequently, and unfortunately, it is not being addressed. In my case, the goo appeared oily, like mold release agent applied excessively...earlier, I said it was like resin, but it was not resin. Ideally, vendors would read here about problems with their products, and make adjustments to eliminate complaints. Unfortunately, this rarely, if ever, happens on ANY forum.

            There are methods to avoid this problem (gelcoat), and if I'm not mistaken, the vendor strongly recommends any repairs made with their panels be gelcoated. I had already decided I was going to gelcoat at least the repair, if not the entire car. If the painter is unaware of this recommendation, or proceeds as if they never heard it, then the repaint expense is going to be on you.

            No doubt, it's a hard lesson.

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            • Gary N.
              Infrequent User
              • July 31, 2001
              • 24

              #21
              Re: Is this another Chicago Corvette or Goathill

              Yes you are correct, I wanted to put caution first. I will be paying a lawyer soon at this rate. The thought of further delay and missing the 40th anniversity creates a Corvette Image that I am not willing to live with.

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              • Gary N.
                Infrequent User
                • July 31, 2001
                • 24

                #22
                Re: Who owns the problem when the paint job bliste

                We really need a spell checker, how = who

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                • Jim R.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • June 30, 2001
                  • 643

                  #23
                  Re: Who owns the problem when the paint job bliste

                  Hope things work out for you and your car ,let us know how things turn out. jim
                  JR

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                  • Terry D.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • May 31, 1987
                    • 2690

                    #24
                    Re: Not In My Opinion...

                    Chuck

                    I got to wonder why you support someone who you know does an inferior job? If you have to redo his parts you might as well do your own. Got to believe some one out there is making a "good" panel.
                    Terry

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                    • Terry D.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • May 31, 1987
                      • 2690

                      #25
                      Re: Who owns the problem when the paint job bliste

                      Gary and Dick

                      Seems to me if you two would just say who you are talking about, maybe the people will get their act together. By not letting people know who you are talking about you just let the next poor customer go through the same crap. The reason these people stay in business is because no one wants to talk bad about them. When the word gets out, and it will, they will have to change their methods or go out of business. You can't be sued for slander by telling the truth!
                      Terry

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                      • Chuck S.
                        Expired
                        • April 1, 1992
                        • 4668

                        #26
                        Re: Who owns the problem when the paint job bliste

                        Gary, for my own education, it would be valuable to know the type of gelcoat used. There are two types; a polyester based product (Eckler's) and there is another used in non-Corvette applications; I believe it's called PBA (polybutyl alcohol?). The polyester product is difficult to sand and labor intensive. As far as I know, the PBA is just as effective, and a lot less work.

                        Also, knowing the type of primer used on top of the gelcoat (epoxy, sandable urethane primer-surfacer, etc.), and the paint manufacturer and finish system (DuPont Chroma, PPG Concept, etc) used would be valuable. As I implied above, I have a similar situation with a repair panel, and knowing this information may help me plan the painting.

                        It's unfortunate that you've had this problem and that isn't getting resolved, but maybe we can salvage some value out of the experience for the rest of us.

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                        • Joe C.
                          Expired
                          • August 31, 1999
                          • 4598

                          #27
                          How Much of the Body Was Replaced? *NM*

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                          • Joe C.
                            Expired
                            • August 31, 1999
                            • 4598

                            #28
                            Re: Who owns the problem when the paint job bliste

                            Well, both really. Pronounced the same in the Pacific Northwest, as elsewhere.

                            BTW, it's not resin!

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                            • Gary N.
                              Infrequent User
                              • July 31, 2001
                              • 24

                              #29
                              Re: Not In My Opinion...

                              Chuck, the vendor is aware he has a problem and began to gel coat everything a as a correct action.

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                              • Chuck S.
                                Expired
                                • April 1, 1992
                                • 4668

                                #30
                                Re: Not In My Opinion...

                                Actually, I did not have to "redo" the part...there was a tiny little defect on one bend/edge. I began to fiddle with it figuring I would have to laminate a little mat and resin to make it perfect...I don't consider that unusual. I hit it with the grinder, and I discovered the cause for the "little defect"...it began to open up into a little capsule full of liquid goo. I ground the goo capsule completely off, and prepped it for lamination; no big deal.

                                Consider the alternatives...would you rather have a hand-laid panel someone made in their garage that doesn't fit? By comparison, what I've had to deal with thus far is insignificant. Now, if MY "ox gets gored" by blistering paint after gelcoating and proper prep, then I'll be POed too, and consider looking for new sources.

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