What is the current status of powdercoating finishes as far as deductions? Is there a "set percentage" of originality points or ? For example, the 1965 Manual in Category 25 "Front Suspension" assigns points to six different items - if all of these suspension components had been powdercoated, should there be an originality point deduction under each? Maybe it's just the heat .....
Powdercoating & Judging
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Re: Powdercoating & Judging *TL*
Loren,
To my knowledge there is no "standard" deduction for powder coat, however, detectable powder coat on suspension in an inappropriate finish. As finish is one of the 5 components of originality a 20% deduction of originality points is warranted.
Terry
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Re: Powdercoating & Judging
Hi Loren. From a practical standpoint, I think that it's impossible for a chassis judge to detect powdercoat finishes. Many of us here in the Baltimore area keep the local powdercoating companies busy doing frames and suspension parts. In my opinion, it's the way to go. The local shops offer black in 10 shades...from gloss gloss to flat flat. They designate the shades as 10% flattened, 20% flattened and so on. As long as the shade looks right, it's undetectable in my opinion. Chuck1963 Corvette Conv. 327/360 NCRS Top Flight
2006 Corvette Conv. Velocity Yellow NCRS Top Flight
1956 Chevy Sedan. 350/4 Speed Hot Rod- Top
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Here Here Gentlemen
My oh my, are we going to add powder coating to our bag of "original" restoration techniques? We have base coat-clear coat, stainless brake and fuel lines, silicone brake fluid, internal engine upgrades, etc., etc. What ever happened to RESTORATION, PRESERVATION and ENJOYMENT? Gee, maybe it ought to be IMPROVEMENT, MODERNIZATION, and EGO-MANICIDAL POLITICAL EXPLOITATION FOR MONETARY GAIN! Different strokes for different folks I suppose. Thank God for open highways where I can use my Vette like it was intended. The easiest way to restore something to appear as original is to do it like it was originally done.
Varooom!- Top
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Re: Here Here Gentlemen
Dale, I couldn't have said it better myself! For the last 15 years I've been involved in another "hobby" (old powerboats) and have seen the standards relaxed year after year to the point the original builders wouldn't recognize their work. I'm new to the club but have previous Corvette experience and I would hate to see the same thing happen to this hobby. I've heard all the arguements before. It usually starts out as a saftey issue and then it's a preservation thing, but in my mind it comes down to lazyness. The old "do it once and forget it" mentality. There are show cars and there are drivers and to think there is anything in between is delusional. You can occasionally drive a show car but it's pretty damned hard to score well with a driver. This is only my second post and I expect to get some flak for my opinions but hey, everyone has them. I'm certain you guys on this board will point out the errors in my thinking! This is a really great discussion board and I can't begin to tell all of you how much I have gained from it already. I'm happy to be here. Ken- Top
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Welcome to NCRS
Welcome to NCRS Ken. You can't find a better bunch or Corvette nuts anywhere.I am constantly amazed by the display of expertese, (and sometimes the lack of it) you find here on the Board. We welcome your posts. ALL of us started knowing nothing about Corvettes. I have found that the learning process NEVER stops even after 20 or so years.
I'm a weird player in this hobby, (to say the least). I am 100% percent into authentic restorations (PURIST), 100% into Corvette racers, 100% into altered drivers, and 100% into having FUN. (Duke, does that add up to 100%? My math is rusty). If a person is limited to only one Corvette, it could be authentically restored, shown, receive the awards, and then be driven for pleasure. It can always be re-restored at a later date. The ULTIMATE Corvette experience is a top down 85 mph cruise on the interstate with side trips on senic roads to feel the beauty of God's universe enhanced by these dumb little cars. I once took a 7,600 mile "drive" one summer in my altered 1962 Corvette. From west Tennessee I took in Spearfish, Sturgis, (where the bikers got off on the Corvette more than Harleys), Rushmore, Yellowstone, Banff in Canada, Port Ludlow Washington, Grant's Pass, The Dunes, Rt 1 down the Ca coast, Over the Golden Gate, Big Sur, LA, Tiajuana, Then across Mexico and on to Douglas Arizona and the USA. All this with an ?unreliable? 1962 Fuel Injection system? NEVER had a single problem!
I'm looking forward to your posts. Welcome and e-mail me at any time. I'm always looking for new pals.
Dale Pearman (Varooom!)- Top
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Re: Here Here Gentlemen
I couldn't agree more! Oh how we restore,with silicone brake fluid, stainless brake lines , gas lines, bolts, mirrors ,you name it,hardened valve seats,base coat clear coat, powder coat then get concerned that the judge may take away originalty points.Am I missing something? What does the word restore mean? I know I have posted about some of these very things,but I am not chasing points!- Top
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Re: Here Here Varooooooooooom.......mmmm,,,
Yo, Bro, time to preach to da preacher. Not all members are gung ho point chasers, but all are dedicated to the preservation, resurrection, revivification, revitalization, restoration of the Corvette. The bottom line, whether one goes by the book or chooses to powdercoat the frame and/or any/all removable metal pieces, the end result is the preservation, resurrection, revivification, revitalization, and restoration of the Corvette.- Top
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