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  • Rainer S.
    Very Frequent User
    • May 31, 2003
    • 468

    63 SWC fuelie

    Why is it, that no vendor makes correct replacement top head sheet metal screws to attach the F.I.S-tube to the rad. support. But they make all the other fasteners. ? Correct screws sell for over $60 on Ebay..

    Rainer
  • Loren L.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 30, 1976
    • 4104

    #2
    Are you referring to the "correct" screws

    or the wrong "top hat" screws?

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    • Rainer S.
      Very Frequent User
      • May 31, 2003
      • 468

      #3
      Re: Are you referring to the "correct" screws

      I was under the impression, that the top head are the correct ones. Will check the AM for the description..(At work right now)
      What IS the correct screw for an early, dec 62 build fuelie ? (I lost my screws when I dis-assembled the car, not knowing how hard they are to replace.)

      Rainer

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      • John D.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • December 1, 1979
        • 5507

        #4
        Re: 63 SWC fuelie

        Ranier, You are looking for the incorrect screws for your early '63. I have a Feb-March 63 and it does not take high hats. I don't even know if any 63's use the high hats. Have to refer to the manual and it's not handy. Meanwhile you may be able to get two free screws from your car right now. The courtesy light bracket is held on with the same screws I believe as the s-tube to radiator support. Recessed hex head screw-rather a common looking screw-readily available except for the logo. I think the logo is the letter L. I am sure others will comment.
        Go on the archives as Michael Hanson, Robert Jorjorian and others covered this screw big time about a year ago. Lots of pics available for you. No one makes this screw that I know of. Meanwhile I agree with Loren on the ones you typically see on the auction site. Most of the ones on are not correct. If you needed the high hat it would be a self starting screw and typically the ones for sale are not self starters. But some of them are. Trying to insult any sellers. Meanwhile the high hats are being reproduced. John D.

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        • Loren L.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • April 30, 1976
          • 4104

          #5
          John's description of the "correct"

          screws is correct. If you insist on having the wrong "top hat" screws to satisfy a judge who does not know what he is looking at, "top hat" screws can be found in a number of locations on early Corvairs.

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          • Rainer S.
            Very Frequent User
            • May 31, 2003
            • 468

            #6
            Re: John's description of the "correct"

            Will check-out the courtesy light bracket screw tomorrow morning. And the archives...
            May have the screws and don't even know it, since I was obviously looking for the wrong kind (top head).
            Thanks for setting me straight...

            Rainer

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            • John D.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • December 1, 1979
              • 5507

              #7
              Re: John's description of the "correct"

              Ranier, My friend Dave Cardina bought a 64 FI Car brand new. Has an early 7380 unit. Forgot the month. Anyhow it had the "low" hat screws on it when new. So Dave not knowing any better in the olden days of NCRS put the high-hat screws on it to appease the troops. So the moral of the story is that the high hat screws were probably not used on a 63 at all. Don't know what the JM says though. Screw change didn't happen to early 64 at best. Like Loren said Corvairs have the correct screws on them. I know because my friend recently gave me a set of 4 from his son's 64 Corvair. Self starters also. We used to say all these kind of parts were readily available in junkyards. Trouble is around her we are not allowed to wonder around the yards anymore because of insurance regulations.
              P.S. Michael Hanson wrote me and said that yes the correct L logo screws are holding the courtesy light bracket on in your 63. He said they may be a tad longer screw though. This I don't think is a big deal. Put the two originals on top where they show and hardware store on the bottom two until you find two originals. John D.

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              • Rob M.
                NCRS IT Developer
                • January 1, 2004
                • 12695

                #8
                Re: 63 SWC fuelie

                Hi John,

                Are, by any chance, these the right type mentioned?

                greetings,
                Rob




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                Rob.

                NCRS Dutch Chapter Founder & Board Member
                NCRS Software Developer
                C1, C2 and C3 Registry Developer

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                • John D.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • December 1, 1979
                  • 5507

                  #9
                  Re: 63 SWC fuelie

                  Rob, Not even close. Let's see. You need a recessed hex bolt or screw with an L logo. Go to the Archives and look up this subject. You should see some good pics on there. I lost my good digital camera in a robbery so can't help you. Harry Sadlock or Robert Jorjorian can still post here and may have some good pics to post again. Your screw is a phillips screw-you need a hex screw-recessed head-(low),etc. Did you check your courtesy light bracket hardware? Rob there must have been a 100 posts on this subject before. Archives for sure. John

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                  • Rob M.
                    NCRS IT Developer
                    • January 1, 2004
                    • 12695

                    #10
                    Re: 63 SWC fuelie

                    John sent me the picture showing the right type of screws:




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                    Rob.

                    NCRS Dutch Chapter Founder & Board Member
                    NCRS Software Developer
                    C1, C2 and C3 Registry Developer

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                    • John D.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • December 1, 1979
                      • 5507

                      #11
                      Re: 63 SWC fuelie

                      Rob, That pic came from the archives. Nice picture I believe from either Jorjorian or Hanson. Was on the archives for sure. That should end the discussion on s-tube screws for awhile. I don't know where you are going to fidn that screw in the Netherlands though. Good luck, John
                      Too bad it isn't reproduced. Maybe it is but I am not aware of it.

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                      • Rainer S.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • May 31, 2003
                        • 468

                        #12
                        Re: 63 SWC fuelie

                        I looked at my courtesy light bracket this morning. It is being held by a low head hex sheetmetal screw with a 5/16" hex head. "L" on center of head, just as you mentioned. I will remove the screw tomorrow, take a picture and post it here. (if someone else hasn't posted one by then). For the time being, until I find the correct ones, I will use (4) temp. screws.
                        I tried to find the past posts in the archives, but did not find the ones with pic's.

                        Rainer

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                        • Rainer S.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • May 31, 2003
                          • 468

                          #13
                          Re: 63 SWC fuelie

                          Rob beat me to it... That's what my courtesy light bracket screw looks like ! Let the search begin....

                          Rainer

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                          • Rainer S.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • May 31, 2003
                            • 468

                            #14
                            Re: 63 SWC fuelie

                            Not to make this thread any longer, where on a Corvair trunk were the same screws used ?

                            Rainer

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                            • John D.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • December 1, 1979
                              • 5507

                              #15
                              Re: 63 SWC fuelie

                              Rainer, I believe it was on the tranny tunnel. But I also heard they were under the rear hood or whatever its called. Maybe Dave Cardina will look in as he knows for sure as his son has a Corvair. I used to have a Corvair in the late 60's before the "Unsafe at any Speed" thing came out and my parents kept nagging me until I sold the car. Used it so I wouldn't have to take my 68 BB out in the salt and snow. Had I known then that 4 screws were worth 50 bucks I would have had a truck load. John

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