C2 -Correct paint for 67 Rocker molding/side pipes

[Todd G.]

What is a correct paint I can use for touch up to the rocker panel molding black area, for a side pipe 67 car? The driver side corner edge has some very small paint spots worn/chipped off due to getting in/out of the car.
It almost looks like a mat black finish --- not glossy at all.

[Stephen L.]

Re: C2 -Correct paint for 67 Rocker molding/side p

Good old KRYLON semi flat black works great. Take all the old paint off and mask the area for a great looking job. The trim pieces come off by removing the screws at either end and lifting the trim piece off the "clip" (runs the length of the trim piece). Do this to avoid painting the body....
The screws holding this on should be chrome heads (per NCRS judging book) on a side pipe car, but black on a none side pipe car. Looking at the AIM these screws, side pipe and non-side pipe cars ALL have the same part#... go figure.....

[Todd G.]

Re: C2 -Correct paint for 67 Rocker molding/side p

Steve:
Thanks for the information on the paint to use and the process. As far as the Judging Manual, I personally got that notation changed, regarding the chrome screws for side pipe cars, with Keith Biggers for the next issue of the Judging Guide. I was deducted for that at the Minneapolis meet last summer, contested it, researched it, and contacted Keith. He confirmed it is wrong in the manual, and will get the manual changed. Not sure where they keep a log of all the pending changes. Would be nice to see that 'change log' on the NCRS.org website.

[Stephen L.]

Re: C2 -Correct paint for 67 Rocker molding/side p

I was docked for black screws in Kissimmee, so I changed 'em to chrome for Charlotte and was going to be docked again... contested it against the judging manual and won with chrome. So which is it, chrome or black for both types piped and non-piped????

[Wayne K.]

Re: C2 -Correct paint for 67 Rocker molding/side p

Todd,

Before removing that molding I would advise putting several layers of masking tape along the body by the molding to protect the paint. As I recall I had some difficulty removing and replacing it. It just doesn't pop in and out of the channel that runs the length of the rocker.

Wayne

[Gerard F.]

Re: C2 -67 rocker panel screws

Steve,

I know my original rocker panel side screws where black (67 undercar exhaust)but the ones on the underside were chrome (while the JG says they are supposed to be also black).

Here's a picture of my orginals next to Paragon repros. Repros on the left, original (first time removed) on the right:


Note the smaller head on the side panel screws.

The ones removed are from the drivers side, which have been replaced with "correct" ones, since I was missing one on the underside. Haven't touched the underside ones on the passenger side, as I have never removed the rocker panel on that side to see the frame stencil.

Maybe one of these days.

Jerry Fuccillo
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[Stephen L.]

Re: C2 -67 rocker panel screws

Thanks Jerry. I agree that both side pipe and under car exhaust rocker panels should have black screws in the black facia of the trim piece. Why would GM put a chrome screw in one and a black in the other, when both locations are surrounded by black, especially when the part numbers are the same.

The judging manual says under car exhaust panels should have 2 black screws like yours. It also says the screws are chrome on a sidepipe car.

Hope someone will clarify......

As a side note, those screws are a #10 with a #8 head, available at many fastener stores as are many other screws used in the auto industry. I'm lucky in that I have a local store that stocks many of these types of screws.

[Rob A.]

Re: C2 -67 rocker panel screws

Jerry,

I understand your original lower screws were chrome pan head as in your picture...were there washers on them?

[Rob A.]

Re: C2 -67 rocker panel screws

....my original side screws also were black with the smaller heads.

[Rob A.]

Re: C2 -67 rocker panel screws

Jerry,

You can find screws with the original, smaller head, in black, at True Value, in the Midwest Fastener box marked "Decorative Screws"

[Dave M.]

Re: C2 -67 rocker panel screws

I have a 36,000 mile original unrestored '67, Sept built car. It's a sidepipe car with chrome rocker panel screws. They have never been changed.
For what its worth!

[Gerard F.]

Re: C2 -67 rocker panel screws

Rob,

The chrome bottom screws had no washer like the black phosphate repro. The one in the picture above with the blunt point has been cleaned up and is chrome, not zinc.

And guess what, I just checked the never before removed right side rocker panel and the bottom screws have the washer and pointed point, look black phosphate, just like the repros.

Looks like the guy on the left was using a different bin then the guy on the right. Isn't that crazy.

Just wondering if there was another application for that blunt pointed chrome screw in the picture, maybe for 68 as my car is pretty late.

Jerry Fuccillo
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[Tom Merkel]

Re: C2 '67 rocker molding screws

Todd - For a late Nov. car, the '67 rocker panels were attached (vertically) by (approx.) 3/16" hex-head screws of (approx.) 3/4" long, with a captive washer. They were definitely not chrome, and likely the semi-flat that was discussed.

I just had mine off last week for clean-up and paint. I took Steve's advice and stripped the paint completely, and used a self-etching primer; then Krylon semi-flat. Looks great.

This is original owner, non-molested conv. with under-car exhaust.

Tom

[Peter L.]

Re: C2 -67 rocker panel screws

Steve - Typically, the screw or fastener is the same color as the piece that the screw is attaching and this is most likely the case when the fastner or the end of the fastner can be seen. Pete

[Gerard F.]

Re: C2 '67 rocker molding screws

Tom,

I got a feeling that they used whatever was available at the time, just looking at the above posts. Probably the same for the headlight bezel screws.

Jerry Fuccillo
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