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  • Clem Z.
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    • January 1, 2006
    • 9427

    #16
    a lot of walmart brand oil is recycled oil

    done in canada. read cafefully

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    • Lyndon S.
      Expired
      • May 1, 1988
      • 1020

      #17
      Re: a lot of walmart brand oil is recycled oil

      Oh, come on!

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      • Clem Z.
        Expired
        • January 1, 2006
        • 9427

        #18
        the US military does this all the time

        oil does not wear out,just get dirty and looses additives so they clean it up and put back the additives

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        • Clem Z.
          Expired
          • January 1, 2006
          • 9427

          #19
          safety kleen is big in this business

          you pay them to haul away your waste oil,they recycle it and sell it. not a bad business

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          • Duke W.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • January 1, 1993
            • 15229

            #20
            Re: a lot of walmart brand oil is recycled oil

            There's nothing on the label to indicate it is rerefined oil. With enough processing used oil can probably meet C-specs, but I doubt if it is economically feasible. Today's API specs are just too tough. Specific crude oils and processing are required to make the various base stocks used in today's oils.

            Most of the recycled oil in SoCal gets filtered and mixed up to about five percent with heavy fuel oil used by ships.

            Duke

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            • Clem Z.
              Expired
              • January 1, 2006
              • 9427

              #21
              i do not know if there is a law requiring the

              label. there was a progranm on TV about safety kleen setup in canada and it even mention that some of their oil went to walmart

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              • Lyndon S.
                Expired
                • May 1, 1988
                • 1020

                #22
                Re: the US military does this all the time

                I worked for the US postal service and they also used it in the LLVs, I would think that it would be clearly labeled and not in fine print if Wal-Mart was selling it on the shelf.

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                • Duke W.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • January 1, 1993
                  • 15229

                  #23
                  Re: i do not know if there is a law requiring the

                  Googling the subject is informative. A lot of government agencies at all levels are using rerefined oil that meets the API specs recommended by the vehicle manufacturers.

                  It's not clear that it's cheaper. In fact it may be more expensive, but is considered "green". It takes a gallon of used oil to make 2.5 quarts of fresh base oil.

                  It's also not clear if motor oils that contain base oils derived from used oil need to be so labeled, but at least on off-brand I found makes marketing hay that their API certified oil is "rerefined".

                  The buttom line is that if a motor oil meets the API spec, it doesn't matter what the raw material source is.

                  Duke

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                  • Duke W.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • January 1, 1993
                    • 15229

                    #24
                    Re: i do not know if there is a law requiring the

                    Whether an oil is manufactured from base stocks that use crude oil as as a raw material or used oil is irrelevant as long as it meets the API specs.

                    If Walmart's 15W-40 CI-4 uses a base oil from Safety-Kleen's used oil refinery, so what?

                    Safety-Kleen's own brand is "America's First". I have never seen it in a store, but their web site is interesting, including these comments from OEMs.



                    Mercedes-Benz owners probably won't believe that "rerefined" oils are used for factory fill, just like they refused to believe 20 years ago that some of the engine technology came from the Vega.

                    Duke

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                    • Clem Z.
                      Expired
                      • January 1, 2006
                      • 9427

                      #25
                      like i posted "oil does not wear out"

                      just get dirty.

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