With all this talk of black C-3s it got me to thinking, has any car shown up on the judging field with out any paint just primer? How would that car judge if one was to show up with a special trim plate showing the car came from the factory in primer?
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Re: Primer C3s
The subject is covered in your copy of the NCRS Judging Reference Manual, Standard Deductions section. Cars came from the factory in one of three forms when it comes to paint:
(1) A standard paint trim code embossed on the trim plate that corresponds to one of the then current factory colors (even if a particular combination of interior/exterior colors fell outside that model year's 'recommended' list).
(2) SPEC stamped on the trim plate meaning the color was NOT one of those offered that model year causing the factory to hand-walk the body through the paint booth to apply a non-standard paint (e.g. the Shriner's cars).
(3) PRIME stamped on the trim plate meaning the car left the factory in basic primer for a third party to execute the final paint job (dealer, Etc.). This alternative was popular in the race crowd where they KNEW they were going to modify a car upon receipt including a custom paint job...
Club rules require cars with PRIME on the trim tag be presented for judging IN RAW PRIMER. For cars with SPEC on the trim tag, the burden of proof is placed on the owner to document and present evidence of the car's original, as delivered to the first owner, color.
Few cars with PRIME are actually Flight Judged. Why? Most have a special history (e.g. race competition) that lends them to the American Heritage judging category where final vehicle value is typically MUCH HIGHER than that of an 'ordinary' restored Corvette. -
Re: Primer C3s
Kelly -- From the NCRS Corvette Judging Reference Manual, 7th Edition, Page 24:
"Cars appearing with trim information unusual for normal production, such as exterior paint denoted as "PRIME", will need to be shown in that finish in order to comply with NCRS Judging Standards and suffer no automatic color change deduction. In the case of an exterior paint code such as "SPEC." or "SPECIAL", usually denoting a nonproduction color or primer, it will be the sole responsibility of the owner to provide satisfactory documentation to the judges which confirms the color or finish applied at the factory, not at the dealer, or the deduction under color change will apply."
It is for that reason in one of the threads below I suggested that the owner bring the paperwork for his black 1973 when having the car judged.
"has any car shown up on the judging field with out any paint just primer?" There are at least 39 chapter judging events each year (Some of them not in North America), along with the Regionals (usually 6 to and a National convention. I doubt there is anyone person who attends a majority of these events. Roy Sinor would have to answer this question in order for the answer to be definitive, but perhaps there is someone in the audience who recalls a Corvette entered for judging in primer.TerryComment
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Re: Primer C3s
The trim plate on my 1977 says SPEC. The dealer invoice (I got a copy from GM archives) says SPECIAL PAINT - BODY IN PRIME. Does that mean it was shipped to the dealer in primer only?Comment
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you're screwed
The reason why most primer cars are not restored in primer is that the car is also an investment. Just try to sell a "fully restored" car in primer to anyone other than a "die hard" NCRS person. Unfortunately, although I would suspect that an original 1967 435 car might generate some interest, your 1977 in primer would likely be treated as a pariah.
Sorry,
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Re: you're screwed
My 77 isn't in primer. Probably hasn't been in primer for 30 years. The original owner (a woman) must have had a reason for ordering it in primer. It was built very early in the model year, September 1976, so she must have ordered it. I've been unable to track her down to ask questions, but I heard from the third owner that she owned it a long time and had it in storage many years. The car has 53,000 miles. The second owner had it repainted unknown years ago. He died so I can't ask him any questions either. The guy I bought it from only knew it had SPEC on the trim plate. I didn't know about the BODY IN PRIME until I got a copy of the dealer invoice from GM archives.
I'm not planning on restoring the car to primer. I just find it curious that there are extremely few of these Corvettes. I bought it two years ago and started attending car shows and cruise nights and talking to people. I was surprised how few people knew of these cars. I've only run across two who ever saw a new one in primer at a dealer back in to 70's.
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