Someone recently asked what the five axes/aspects of originality were that I referenced in a recent post. This is the type of information that should be in a FAQ page on this site (hint, hint) since it is such an important piece of how we judge any item.
I referred to them to a recent thread with a response by Jack Humphrey. As I've had to reference it twice in the past week, I thought it might be worth posting. If two are asking, more are thinking it....
"This has come up before in prior threads, but here goes again...
When judges inspect cars, they look to the NCRS Judging Reference Manual for advice on point deductions (Standard Deductions section) AND to the Judging Guide for that year car (sometimes individual National Team Leaders publish 'how to' advice on specific deductions to take for this/that). If there is NO mention of how to deal with a given deviation from know factory original typical factory production, judges are left to make their own decision(s) regarding how many points to deduct.
Maybe ten years ago, the National Judging Chairman issued guidelines on Originality which were taught in various judging schools. The guidelines teach judges view originality in a five axis universe: Finish, Date, Installation, Configuration and Completeness. To the extent the scoring line item deviates from known typical factory originality in each axis, deduct 20% of the available originality points for that difference.
Now, while this sounds simple, it's often a bigger job that it appears to be. On the Flight Score sheets there are individual line items and a given line item may involve more than one part. For example, a left hand, front bumper not only includes the major item (the bumper itself), it also includes minor item(s) like the fasteners holding the bumper to the car.
So, there's a certain amount of judgement call involved in applying the 5-axis rule. How many of the points associated with that line item do you allocate for the bumper vs. the fasteners?
But, good judges should be able to work backwards (from their handwritten description regarding the deduction) to re-arrive at the number of points they originally deducted. In other words, there should be some 'science' to the deduction vs. a good ole boy 'feel' as to how many points constitute an appropriate deduction... "
For the thread, see https://www.ncrs.org/forum/archive29.cgi?review=288456
Patrick
I referred to them to a recent thread with a response by Jack Humphrey. As I've had to reference it twice in the past week, I thought it might be worth posting. If two are asking, more are thinking it....
"This has come up before in prior threads, but here goes again...
When judges inspect cars, they look to the NCRS Judging Reference Manual for advice on point deductions (Standard Deductions section) AND to the Judging Guide for that year car (sometimes individual National Team Leaders publish 'how to' advice on specific deductions to take for this/that). If there is NO mention of how to deal with a given deviation from know factory original typical factory production, judges are left to make their own decision(s) regarding how many points to deduct.
Maybe ten years ago, the National Judging Chairman issued guidelines on Originality which were taught in various judging schools. The guidelines teach judges view originality in a five axis universe: Finish, Date, Installation, Configuration and Completeness. To the extent the scoring line item deviates from known typical factory originality in each axis, deduct 20% of the available originality points for that difference.
Now, while this sounds simple, it's often a bigger job that it appears to be. On the Flight Score sheets there are individual line items and a given line item may involve more than one part. For example, a left hand, front bumper not only includes the major item (the bumper itself), it also includes minor item(s) like the fasteners holding the bumper to the car.
So, there's a certain amount of judgement call involved in applying the 5-axis rule. How many of the points associated with that line item do you allocate for the bumper vs. the fasteners?
But, good judges should be able to work backwards (from their handwritten description regarding the deduction) to re-arrive at the number of points they originally deducted. In other words, there should be some 'science' to the deduction vs. a good ole boy 'feel' as to how many points constitute an appropriate deduction... "
For the thread, see https://www.ncrs.org/forum/archive29.cgi?review=288456
Patrick
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