Erratic Idle - Troubleshooting advice Solicited

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  • Robert S.
    Expired
    • July 1, 2001
    • 230

    #1

    Erratic Idle - Troubleshooting advice Solicited

    1974 L48 4 speed, 31K miles and believed to be accurate per MVD records. Purchased the car in early 06' - engine operation was perfect during all of 06' - actually flawless. Prior to purchase the following related parts were replaced with new parts by the selling dealer: fuel tank, fuel pump, rotor, distributor cap,points, vacuum advance unit. Carb was rebuilt and is the correct Quadrajet P/N for the engine which is numbers matching to the car.

    On first start this year after winter storage of 4 month the engine will not hold idle. It will run fine above 1500 rpm and will start fine cold the first time. After it starts the idle speed jumps around and it will die and then either will not restart or is extremely hard to restart.

    I have done basic electrical troubleshooting to the ignition system and to the centrifugal advance system - everything appears to me to be normal. I suspected a float issue and put in a new correct configuration float and set it per Lars advice at .375". The carb was spotless inside confirming the dealer claim of a carb. rebuild kit having been installed. The accelerator pump was obviously brand new. I reinstalled the carb with a new gasket - all with no effect.

    I am currently suspecting a vacuum leak. All of the vacuum hoses appear good and most appear to be new. Everything is connected as it should be except the vacuum advance electrical switch is bypassed so vacuum hose is direct from vacuum advance to carb. The intake manifold bolts are tight and I have looked at the front and rear where the intake manifold mates to the engine and see no evidence of any mising gasket material. Note: The dealer had removed the intake manifold prior to sale - he gave me the pictures he took during his resoration work.

    Looking for ideas of where to go next. Has anyone experienced something like this?

    Could it be the EGR valve stuck open/rusted open or perhaps a missing EGR valve gasket? I believe the EGR value is original as there was nothing on the pre-sale repair invoice to say it was replaced.
  • dennis frey

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    Re: Erratic Idle - Troubleshooting advice Solicite

    as nobody else is taking a crack at this, i will make a few suggestions. you dont mention the spark plugs, probably the best indicator of engine performance. have you pulled them to see what they look like===wet?, sooty?, cardboardish.? if necessary, put some new ones in, run the engine, let it screw up, pull the plugs. i am sure there are many posts on here on how to analyze plugs.

    find a place to hook up a vacume gauge [usually back of carb] and run it into car so you can watch it while you drive. if not drivable, watch it as it idles and see if it falls off, etc. you can spray starting fluid around suspected leak areas to listen for engine speed up [be carful not to get any on paint].

    never assume new parts are good parts. i suffered with a brand new CRACKED distributer cap for a year. start the engine in total darkness and watch for arcing. coil and condenser break down under load can look like vacuum leaks. is fuel filter clean?

    check for proper engine timing with timing light and proper advance during run up which may indicate timing issues you mentioned.

    hope some of this helps. just think how good it is going to feel when you get it sorted out. re. d.

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    • Donald M.
      Expired
      • December 1, 1984
      • 498

      #3
      Re: Erratic Idle - Troubleshooting advice Solicite

      Robert, I had the same problem with my '74 many years ago after storage. I replaced the plugs and then car ran fine after that. Don't know why, but plugs fixed it.
      Don

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