I recently purchased a "NOS" 396 Turbo-Jet Emblem. The bottom stud was cut flush and can not be used. I've heard that this was done by the factory for the emblem on the battery side for the Big Block engine. Is this true or did someone hack the emblem (part #3872997 - Stamped CMD)? Thanks
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Yes and no....
Your copy of the AIM, Option Section L78, Sheet D5, specifically contains an assy note to cut of the end of the rear most emblem stud on the RH side of the car to facilitate heater installation. So, that's the 'yes'...
BTW, the RH side of the car is NOT where the battery mounts on either L78 or C60 equipped cars...the battery is on the LH frame rail. So, that's the 'no'...
This is one of the little 'authenticity' checks savvy 396 judges check for during Flight Judging.... -
Re: Yes and no....
Thanks - this is a bottom stud, not one of the end stud on the flags. I have a 1966 427 Car, but back in the late 70's had a original 396 car so I'm buying the emblems for my office. Was trying to decide how hard to push the EBay seller for misrepresenting his "NOS" part.Comment
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Re: Yes and no....
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't CMD the logo for the old Custom Mold Design, the forrunner of Trim Parts who makes most of the repro emblems?Dick WhittingtonComment
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Another 396 side flag question
Eric -- was this the single emblem offered by someone in Caledonia MI ? If so, was General Detroit also cast on the back, as he claims ? (in addition to the CMD shown in his pic). What looks like remains of a bottom stud looks to me like a casting injection location.
Has anyone with early (or late) original 396 cars seen both the 396 and 427 emblem part #'s cast on the back of the L78 side emblem ? [as is seen on GM replacements]Comment
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A follow up question
Jack. A follow up question:
If the rear most stud on the passenger side emblem was cut off, were there still three holes drilled in the fiberglass as on the driver's side or just two holes?
Thanks.
TonyComment
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Re: Another 396 side flag question
Wayne. I have two cruddy looking side emblems that came with my project car. As I've mentioned before, my car was last driven in 1972. It was then placed in a barn in Phoenix, Arizona and there it remained until 2007. As part of what I bought, I got a tub of different parts that were apparently removed from the car as part of a hopeful restoration that the owner intended (but never did) complete. The right front fender on my car had been replaced back in the 1970's due to some mishap. All the bonding seams were correctly replaced; however, the second owner whom I got title from never got around to drilling the holes for the side emblem.
I've cleaned up the side emblems that came with my car. On the reverse of one side emblem, there is no part number. There is only three letters cast: BSC. The 'S' being larger than the 'B' and the 'C'.
On the second emblem, it reads on one side the word: GENERAL above the word: Detroit.
On the other side of the second emblem it reads: 3877998-396, and below that: 3876425-427.
My '65 L78 car was built on July 29, 1965 (the 3rd to last day of production).
Since I have the original fender on the driver's side, the original three holes are still present. However, since my passenger side front fender was replaced sometime in the Nixon years, I have to redrill the holes for the side emblem. I'm wondering if I should drill two holes or three holes.
TonyComment
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Re: Another 396 side flag question
Tony,
According to AIM for L78 Option, Sheet D5, you need to drill three holes. The emblem assembly note reads as follows: "Cut off end of rear-most stud (on R.H. side only) as close to nut as possible before heater installation". This means that you have to install the nut and then cut off the excess lenght of the stud.Comment
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Re: Another 396 side flag question
Thank you John.
TonyComment
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Re: Another 396 side flag question
my orig. left side emblem has a very light bSc stamped into the 396 side . my bottom stud is a good 1/8 shorter than a newer general detroit emblem I have. also the orig flats were not as brushed as the general...the g.m. replacements I bought in the 80s with the wrong red paint have the 396/427 part #s.BillComment
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Re: Another 396 side flag question
my car 17346 built may 12 65 has the bsc emblem..I think these are what the cars came with. You should have all three holes.BillComment
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Re: Another 396 side flag question
Answering Wayne's question. This was a different seller. Sale only showed picture of the front of the Emblem. Back only has part number (3872997) and the stamped CMD. Sounds like in addition to the cut stud, it was/is a repro.Comment
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