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  • Joe C.
    Expired
    • August 31, 1999
    • 4598

    Energize Me!

    All,

    This entire analysis began because the headlight wiring diagram in the midyear Service Manuals, and LL's nice, laminated wiring schematic for midyear Corvettes is incorrect. I am trying to do a NONDESTRUCTIVE test, to determine what would happen to a Corvette's electrical system if the headlight bucket pigtail connectors were actually fabricated per the incorrect diagram. Thankfully, most of them are not. I did, however, recieve a set from Zip products a few years ago that was. I corrected it after examination, and BEFORE I turned on the "juice" to my headlights for the first time. The mucked-up pigtails were NOT fabbed by LL........to this day, I dunno who made them.

    Attached, see photo of T3 no. 4002 sealed beam. With voltmeter, using my Corvette, I see that for lo beams, upper lug is energized, right hand lug is not; for hi beams, right hand lug is energized-upper lug is not. This effectively provides 1 filament for illumination; either the hi or lo filament. Is this right, or are the hi and lo filaments internally connected so that both are energized when 12 v is connected to the hi lug? I'm trying to determine whether or not BOTH lugs should be energized with hi beams on (effectively providing 2+1+2+1=6 filaments for illumination). It is very difficult to tell by looking inside the sealed beam and toggling between hi and lo beams.

    If you look at the schematic, the dimmer switch appears to be a SPST switch, which diverts batt voltage between hi beam conductor, and lo beam conductor. IF, all 6 filaments were to be energized with hi beams, then the lo beam wire would have bypassed the dimmer switch, and the SPST switch would have merely energized/de-energized the hi-beam conductor.

    I would like to have an old, burned out 4002 to disassemble and figure the internal wiring, but I do not.

    Thanks in advance.

    Joe




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  • Mark S. Lovejoy

    #2
    What year car Joe!

    I believe both filaments are energized on high beam, at least C1 and C2 cars.

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    • Roy B.
      Expired
      • February 1, 1975
      • 7044

      #3
      Re: Energize Me!

      You give thought to something I never thought about (or cared) but is interesting ! The bulb and dimmer switch have three wires each. I used a battery charger ground to bulb ground// then a hot led to one of the bulbs post to get low or high beam .
      My thinking is you have TWO filaments in a bulb acting like ballasters, the amount of wire "coils" on each filament determine the voltage ( low beam filament is say 8V and high beam filament is 12V) that is why the dimmer has three wires Ground+a low filament charge+ a high filament charge .??

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      • Wayne W.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • April 30, 1982
        • 3605

        #4
        Re: Energize Me!

        Say What?

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        • Wayne W.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • April 30, 1982
          • 3605

          #5
          Re: What year car Joe!

          Naw, They are on one at a time.

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          • Joe C.
            Expired
            • August 31, 1999
            • 4598

            #6
            Mine's A '65 Car....................All cars using

            ......2 pairs 4001/4002 sealed beams are wired the same way (in principle). The only applicable difference between 1958 and 1982 Corvettes will be the color coding. Other variations have occurred, like another tap for the fiber-optic system, etc. These variations do not apply to this discussion.
            ALL midyear diagrams have always been incorrect.........1963-1967.........and LL carried on the tradition by replicating the error. The "other guy" (can't think of his name offhand) prints corrected schematics.

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            • Joe C.
              Expired
              • August 31, 1999
              • 4598

              #7
              Re: Energize Me!

              Roy,

              On the old T3, 4002 beam, the "lo" filament is rated 50W, and the "hi" filament is rated 37.5W. On the old T3 4001 beam, the filament ("hi") is rated 37.5W.
              This translates to: 50+50=100W for low beams

              37.5x4=150W for hi beams (using 4002 "hi" filament only)

              100+150=250W for hi beams (using both 4002 filaments)

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              • Bob Simard

                #8
                Easy Test

                If I recall correctly, when you push the dimmer switch to the floor to change from low beams to high beams, the dimmer switch will light all six filaments until the switch is released and the low beam filaments go off. This is very visible in front of a garage door.

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