NCRS Award Confirmation Document

[Larry E.]

Hello:

Glad to see this service is now available. Have one question though:

If we are interested in a perticular Corvette and do not know if it ever
went through the NCRS do we still have to pay $300 only to find out it was never
judged?

Thanks; Larry from Illinois

[Mike M.]

Re: NCRS Award Confirmation Document

please provide details on the "$300 Documentation Fee" as i wasn't aware of such a service. regards, mike

[John W.]

Re: NCRS Award Confirmation Document

To all:

The full information and the purchase form is available here on the website.




NCRS Award Confirmation Document

[Steven C.]

Re: NCRS Award Confirmation Document

I believe we have been providing most (sans the document) of this information for free in the past, so I guess we have now decided to charge for it? I know owners could get copies of the judging summary from Roy. Not sure how I feel about teaming up with BJ?

[William B.]

What if current owners still want privacy?

Can results be listed without the current owners approval. I see this as an invasion of privacy. Was this decided in an open board meeting or at the descrition of one individual??????

[John D.]

Re: NCRS Award Confirmation Document

I usually don't comment on NCRS matters like this. But I personally think the cost is a too high for sure. If a individual is an NCRS member then he should be able to get this info for a small token or for free. But if the individual is not a member of NCRS then definitely a fee should be charged. Maybe this discussion could appear on the last page of the Driveline and be voted on by the membership just as they do for regional representatives in their area. If a current owner wants his car deleted from this information that would be a simple matter. When his serial number is looked up on the PC vy NCRS staff it could come up simply as Private thereby respecting the privacy of individuals so desiring it. John D #2855.

[Roy B.]

Re: NCRS is not a Hobby or Club

NCRS is not a hobby .
NCRS is not a club '
NCRS is a copyright-non-profit-Corporation ran by a Board
NCRS board members job is to generate income to the Corporation
NCRS did start off as a (club-hobby) but as the organization grew the threat from our American beloved lawyers told NCRS they needed group insurance ,trade mark,non-profit status and needed to be in-Corporated to protect them self and members .

The word hobby or club is loosely used at events by NCRS people that think their part of one.Sorry NO!
NCRS is still the best Corvette place to show and meet people , no one can be completely happy no matter what NCRS does , that's part of the game - you play the game or move on!
NCRS is no different then any other large in-Corporated Car organization , you take from it what meets your needs , I support NCRS even with it's problems because I realize I'm not perfect ether.

[Norris W.]

Re: NCRS is not a Hobby or Club

QUOTE: "NCRS board members job is to generate income to the Corporation"

Roy, with all due respect I sincerly hope that's NOT the mentality of the present board of directors of NCRS. If it is, I'll be gone, and suspect a LOT of other members will as well. I'm absolutely certain that the founding fathers didn't so invision.

I think the "board members job" is to enhance the organization and support the hobby............ Corvette restoration and preservation. It's really a sad observation to say basically that the board is just in it for the money. If that's the case, I think it's time for a tea party.

There are many non profits that are "clubs". The NCRS SHOULD BE one of em and my impression is it always has been.

[Roy B.]

Re: NCRS is not a Hobby or Club :Noriss"

QUOTE: "NCRS board members job is to generate income to the Corporation"

{Roy, with all due respect I sincerely hope that's NOT the mentality of the present board of directors of NCRS. If it is, I'll be gone, and suspect a LOT of other members will as well. I'm absolutely certain that the founding fathers didn't so invision.

I think the "board members job" is to enhance the organization and support the hobby............ Corvette restoration and preservation. It's really a sad observation to say basically that the board is just in it for the money. If that's the case, I think it's time for a tea party.

There are many non profits that are "clubs". The NCRS SHOULD BE one of em and my impression is it always has been.)
And I also respect NCRS Inc. Board member for not deleting my number because of me starting SACC Inc.

(That is just what I said ) income= money// I dint implie they were in it just for the money or some person was making money for his self, it takes money to run it. I'm not downing NCRS in any way just stating facts. NCRS is INC.
Your observation was badly miss understood, I support NCRS if not I would have left ( my number is #182 and has always been), I would be the last person to be considered for the board of directors or any position ,even a judge because I've always been a thorn in the A**S by asking question many people dint like. I know I've brought more people into NCRS then I can count.Do you think NCRS had any love for me when "I" started SACE which is now SACC."come on"! NCRS gained more members from people that dint know of NCRS and decided to join NCRS because I promoted them and never let my membership laps
Look I'm not going to keep going on about this but I support NCRS and always have!!

[Dick W.]

Re: NCRS is not a Hobby or Club :Noriss"

Loren, I think that you owe an appology to Bill Sangrey, the current Road Tour Director, Ron Ramsey and Chuck Berge, past Road Tour Directors. You post leads readers to believe that this is a current event.

Bill Sangrey asked me to make the below post as he is momentarily unable to so
It is important to note the facts related to Loren' Lundberg's posting regarding the Mid Atlantic Chapter member who embezzled MAC Chapter and National funds.


1) These events occurred prior to 1994.

2) The MidAtlantic Chapter investigated and filed charges against the individual in Prince William County, VA.

3) The individual was convicted, and sentenced to 10 years which was suspended after he agreed to make restitution. He served 3 years probation.

4) NCRS and the MAC Chapter dropped the individual from membership.

Posted by Bill Sangrey, NCRS #5437 and MAC Chapter member since 1982, and (current) NCRS National Road Tour Chairman.

[Norris W.]

Re: NCRS is not a Hobby or Club :Noriss"

Roy, you're correct that I did in fact misunderstand your position, and for that I apologize.

As far as you being the last person considered, I'd guess there's a good chance of us sharing that dubious honor for many of the same reasons. Politics, or perhaps more accurately political correctness has never been one of my strong suits.

[Mark K.]

Re: What if current owners still want privacy?

Seems to me that the only thing that should be published is the VIN and the results. I don't think that there would be any issues with privacy. Perhaps the options could also be published, it would be interesting to see some numbers being crunched.

And by the way, NCRS publishes the results of Chapter, Regional, and national event in the Restorer. Anyone can get the data that way - and that data includes names.

[Roy B.]

Re: Noriss

Look it's OK , many people get up set with people in the heat of a discussions and I'm at fault too.No apologize needed!

[Myron Sleeva]

Missing post

I could have sworn that earlier today there was a response to this post from Loren Lundberg. He ellaborated on his position. It seems to have disappeared. Anyone know why?

[Mike M.]

Re: Missing post

computor cops got the old boy hanging by his family jewels. believe he may have mis-spoke on this issue--didn't cross his t's and dot the appropriate i's.mike