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Although I strive to restore my cars as close to original as practical while still driving them,I have never had any of my cars judged. Its just not something that is important to me.While I appreciate all the work that goes into getting a car judged, I always wondered what the point was of having a car judged multiple times after it has achieved Top Flight.I have heard of owners having their cars judged at show after show.If this is true,it would seem to me that there should be some kind of rule that limits the number of times or the frequency the same car can be judged . Doing that might open up space for others and/or provide time for other NCRS activities that everyone could enjoy. Just my thoughts. Any comments?
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Re: Flight Judging
Some people have their car judged multiple times as they improve it while preparing for an attempt at a Duntov or McLellan. Don H. -
Re: Flight Judging
Some people have their car judged multiple times as they improve it while preparing for an attempt at a Duntov or McLellan. Don H.Comment
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Re: Flight Judging
I feel the idea is to gain the Correct knowledge of whats not-factory on a particular car. Then improve it to its correct status. Its all in the hunt of achieving the Top Flight or Duntov. Then ironically some people sell the car. Go find another one and do it all over again. Its a hobby.Comment
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Re: Flight Judging
I feel the idea is to gain the Correct knowledge of whats not-factory on a particular car. Then improve it to its correct status. Its all in the hunt of achieving the Top Flight or Duntov. Then ironically some people sell the car. Go find another one and do it all over again. Its a hobby.Comment
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Re: Flight Judging
Well, there are several reasons for having a car judged repetitively...
(1) The owner enjoys the judging experience and likes to get his car out & about.
(2) The owner knows different judges have different/unique knowledge and he/she picks up new comment/critique each time the car is judged.
(3) The owner has standard vs. collector's insurance and is establishing a 'doomsday' file to document a time line of the car's condition in the event of a loss and subsequent 'squabbles' with the insurance company...
(4) When a car is judged, one person gets the full feedback (the owner), but MANY others (the judges and those who attend meets to walk/talk/observe) get to see the car and learn from it...
On the issue of a car being judged repetively acting to block/deny others the judging experience, I don't think that holds much water at NCRS. It's not like we're Bloomington, with only one meet each year and we have to 'ration' judging slots. Very few cars are denied judging acceptance due to the shear number of events we host (Chapter, Regional, National)...
Yes, our rules do limit the number of cars a given judge can work on (prevent 'overloading' the human resources of those who judge), but that limit is based on 'divisions' of cars to be judged. The judging chairman at each meet is allowed to define exactly what a 'division' is and he/she is free to assign as many or as few Team Leaders + Judges as are available to staff the divisions on the judging field.
A division might be 'straight axle' cars at a small chapter meet OR it could be as specific as, say, 1963 base engine coupes with automatic transmission if there are enough judges to go around and a LOT of cars to judge. On the contrary, I think the more common 'problem' at NCRS judging meets is turning out enough cars to be judged that all who want to judge can/do get the opportunity to participate!Comment
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Re: Flight Judging
Well, there are several reasons for having a car judged repetitively...
(1) The owner enjoys the judging experience and likes to get his car out & about.
(2) The owner knows different judges have different/unique knowledge and he/she picks up new comment/critique each time the car is judged.
(3) The owner has standard vs. collector's insurance and is establishing a 'doomsday' file to document a time line of the car's condition in the event of a loss and subsequent 'squabbles' with the insurance company...
(4) When a car is judged, one person gets the full feedback (the owner), but MANY others (the judges and those who attend meets to walk/talk/observe) get to see the car and learn from it...
On the issue of a car being judged repetively acting to block/deny others the judging experience, I don't think that holds much water at NCRS. It's not like we're Bloomington, with only one meet each year and we have to 'ration' judging slots. Very few cars are denied judging acceptance due to the shear number of events we host (Chapter, Regional, National)...
Yes, our rules do limit the number of cars a given judge can work on (prevent 'overloading' the human resources of those who judge), but that limit is based on 'divisions' of cars to be judged. The judging chairman at each meet is allowed to define exactly what a 'division' is and he/she is free to assign as many or as few Team Leaders + Judges as are available to staff the divisions on the judging field.
A division might be 'straight axle' cars at a small chapter meet OR it could be as specific as, say, 1963 base engine coupes with automatic transmission if there are enough judges to go around and a LOT of cars to judge. On the contrary, I think the more common 'problem' at NCRS judging meets is turning out enough cars to be judged that all who want to judge can/do get the opportunity to participate!Comment
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Re: Flight Judging
most get re-judged to get a score greater than 97. once you get a 97 or better you can move on to the next level. pv and duntov. after you get judged once you have a detailed list of what is wrong with your car. you can fix and try again. when i build a car i want it to be the best in its class. i try to get a 100 on every car i build. no such thing as a hundred point car so i want to be in the 99 point range. geting my car judged is fun to me. most serious collectors wont buy a corvette without it being certified. with a top flight certificate collectors know the car has been gone over with a fine tooth comb and what they are looking at is a good car. you learn something about your car every time.Comment
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Re: Flight Judging
most get re-judged to get a score greater than 97. once you get a 97 or better you can move on to the next level. pv and duntov. after you get judged once you have a detailed list of what is wrong with your car. you can fix and try again. when i build a car i want it to be the best in its class. i try to get a 100 on every car i build. no such thing as a hundred point car so i want to be in the 99 point range. geting my car judged is fun to me. most serious collectors wont buy a corvette without it being certified. with a top flight certificate collectors know the car has been gone over with a fine tooth comb and what they are looking at is a good car. you learn something about your car every time.Comment
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