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  • Richard M.
    Super Moderator
    • August 31, 1988
    • 11302

    What's wrong with this picture?

    My white 59, red interior, has absolutely no traces of red in the trunk, top well, anywhere. Everything is white, behind panels, nooks and crannies, etc. 59's with red interiors are supposed to have red trunks, mats, trunk boards right?. Why isn't mine? It's sn5504.
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    Also, will the license plate frame be ok since no extra holes were made to install it, or does it need to be removed for judging? I think it looks real nice on the car. Close up link at the bottom of pic.

    Thanks,
    Rich
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  • Greg Pic 39571

    #2
    Re: What's wrong with this picture?

    licence plate frame looks like a pronesti issue, real neat!

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    • Roy B.
      Expired
      • February 1, 1975
      • 7044

      #3
      Re: What's wrong with this picture?

      I've seen that before NCRS don't know everything! Your license plate frame is a 55 GM dealer accessory . Watch out for some not to kind comments.

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      • Tracy C.
        Expired
        • July 31, 2003
        • 2739

        #4
        Re: What's wrong with this picture?

        Rich,

        Was there any traces of red before the trunk was restored, or was this done before you got the car?

        tc

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        • Dan H.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 31, 1977
          • 1365

          #5
          Re: What's wrong with this picture?

          Had an original paint 59, 4500 range, was all white in trunk, top compartment, said 'ivory' in green crayon on front panel of trunk compartment. Was painted interior color on the radio console, instrument housings, upper column only. 58's had all the stuff painted trim color in the trunk and top area usually, including the steering column, etc. Hope this helps.
          Dan
          1964 Red FI Coupe, DUNTOV '09
          Drove the 64 over 5000 miles to three Regionals and the San Jose National, one dust storm and 40 lbs of bugs!

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          • Richard M.
            Super Moderator
            • August 31, 1988
            • 11302

            #6
            Re: What's wrong with this picture?

            Tracy,

            I bought the car in 1986 and the trunk was as you see it. I never painted it. One PO had the car painted in 1970, and all owners since then never painted it. I talked with all of them 15 years ago when I did my owner trace. Never asked about red in the trunk though. Who knew to ask then. I have done nothing to it. Over the years I've been through the entire car, never had the body off, and have never seen any trace of red in the trunk. Today I had the trunk board off(for about the 25th time in my life), and not a red blip anywhere. The "IVORY" green grease crayon mark still evident, with NO red traces anywhere around it. Darn, I should've taken a few today when I had the trunkboard off, Ok 26 times now, and counting.:-)

            Here's a few pics I just took. #17 is a closeup of the crayon. Darned if I see any red. I had to use a flashlight for the macro shot so the backround is a bit yellowed.


            Thanks,
            Rich
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            • Richard M.
              Super Moderator
              • August 31, 1988
              • 11302

              #7
              Re: What's wrong with this picture?

              Greg, What's a pronesti?

              Yes Roy, you're right. I think I got it from a 55-57 parts dealer at a swap meet back in the late 80's.

              Rich

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              • Richard M.
                Super Moderator
                • August 31, 1988
                • 11302

                #8
                Re: What's wrong with this picture?

                Hi Dan, Thanks for sharing. Yours was about a thousand cars before mine. Yes, my top well is all white with no red traces anywhere too.

                I wonder how many white cars had white trunks & wells like ours.

                Rich

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                • Richard P.
                  Expired
                  • May 31, 2002
                  • 190

                  #9
                  Re: What's wrong with this picture?

                  Rich,
                  My car is a '61 and I've read and been told that the trunk and top compartment are body color, not interior color. Don't know if '59s are different or not.
                  Just my 2c worth.

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                  • Dan H.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • July 31, 1977
                    • 1365

                    #10
                    Re: What's wrong with this picture?

                    Rich, yours is typical of 59's, body color in trunk and top well. 58's would have the contrasting interior color in these areas, don't know about the very last 58's, my 58 was very early and was trimmed more like a 57, steering column was red, matching interior color etc. Yours looks spot on!
                    Dan
                    1964 Red FI Coupe, DUNTOV '09
                    Drove the 64 over 5000 miles to three Regionals and the San Jose National, one dust storm and 40 lbs of bugs!

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                    • Bert L.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • April 30, 1977
                      • 424

                      #11
                      Re: What's wrong with this picture?

                      My 1960 #1335 has white exterior, red interior.
                      Trunk areas retain their original finishes and are painted white;trunk floor mat and divider panel are red.

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                      • Tom D.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • September 30, 1981
                        • 2126

                        #12
                        Nolan Adams agrees. *NM*

                        https://MichiganNCRS.org
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                        Tom Dingman

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                        • Richard M.
                          Super Moderator
                          • August 31, 1988
                          • 11302

                          #13
                          Re: Nolan Adams agrees.

                          Hmmmmm, I searched in Noland's book and couldn't find reference to white trunks on red interior'd 59's. Over the years many have told me it was supposed to be red. Maybe they were thinking it was a 58? Please tell me where you found it. I'm glad that is the case. Thanks.

                          So now...... on to my trunk mat and division panel board. It appears those should be red. My mat is a very old original, but appears it was replaced as it's black, and not the correct part#. It's embossed GM3723710, "56" in a circle upper left, and inside a circle a triangle with flat corners and some elongated lettering in it. It does not have a "US" in a circle anywhere. In '86 the old division panel was black, and have replaced it a few times over the years and stayed with black. Since my mat is black, I guess I'll keep the div panel black to match and take the deductions. A red panel and black mat would look goofy to me.

                          As far as the license frame goes, I've decided to take it off for judging. I need all the points I can get. I was thinking of leaving Florida Monday instead of Thursday to get to Kissimmee, maybe go via Chicago to get the extra mileage points.:-)

                          Thanks All!
                          Rich

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                          • Joseph R.
                            Frequent User
                            • December 1, 1989
                            • 94

                            #14
                            Re: Nolan Adams agrees.

                            My almost end of run 1959, silver exterior and red interior. Trunk area is silver, "silver" written on forward bulkhead.
                            C Ya, Joseph Rock
                            Frankenstein 59

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                            • Ted S.
                              Expired
                              • January 1, 1998
                              • 747

                              #15
                              Re: What's wrong with this picture?

                              The TM&JG indicates early '59s had the trunks painted interior color and later ones were body color. Since your's is over half way through the production year, it looks correct.

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