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My 67 blue/blue hardtop has given up its headliner. What are your suggestions and who makes the most near correct replacement? Thanks Keith
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Re: 67 Hardtop headliner
You're in luck! The '66 and '67 cars used a foam backed vinyl material for the hard top headliner. Earlier '63-65 cars used a formed cardboard material.
Al Knoch (and other distributors) offer a repair/restoration kit that has a pretty good clone of the original vinyl material. Buy, the kit, remove your existing headliner, scrape down to bare fiberglass using glue remover and install the repair/restoration material using fresh glue.... -
Wondering if there is a Botox treatment
for headliners.
Got my original headliner on my 67, and it sags a little bit, but it is actually in good shape, finish-wise. Wondering if there is any kind of injected glue treatment, that could tighten up the skin against the substrate.
Just wishing
Jerry Fuccillo
#42179Jerry Fuccillo
1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968Comment
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Re: Wondering if there is a Botox treatment
Jack and Gerard, thanks for your input. When I get over to the reproduction material I am not usually happy. I was just wandering if there was someone beside Knock out their doing the liners? Do you all have any idea or know of some one that may have an old 67 liner? Gerard, sounds like you may have one. You buy the new and I will buy your old one and we both will be happy. KeithComment
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Sorry Keith, no deal
I only lost 2 points one time, and 3 the next, on my sagging original headliner.
It's really a keeper.
I actually re-dyed it with a vinyl paint (it's black standard) and then tried to re-glue it with upholstery glue and tighten it up. But it still sags a bit, but better then when I started.
Was just wondering if there was one of these new miracle products out there where one could inject the headliner and make it stay in place. Maybe I'll do a little more experimenting, come up with a product, and call it "Headtox"
Just kidding,
Jerry Fuccillo
#42179Jerry Fuccillo
1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968Comment
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Re: Wondering if there is a Botox treatment
The thought sounds good. But, the foam backing that is on the vinyl is turning to dust. You just can't get dust to hold glue. Been there and done that. Now, if you could get the vinyl off and reapply a foam, then glue it on, that may work.Comment
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Re: Sorry Keith, no deal
Yeah Jerry,..."apply directly to your headliner, apply directly to your headliner, apply directly to your headliner." Repeat ad infinitum at a high deciblel level.
CharlieComment
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Here's the 'Boogie'...
The '66-67 headliners are foam backed vinyl material. They're attached to the hardtop (or coupe) with glue. The glue sticks to the raw fiberglass AND to the upper surface of the foam padding.
Over time, the foam padding deteriorates and starts turning to 'saw dust'. That results in the liner letting go and sagging down. Yes, you can take a hypo needle and inject some glue into the affected area, but you're essentially pushing on a rope...
The foam is going to continue to age/deteriorate and while you might get some 'relief' from the problem in a spot here/there, the headliner material will continue to age/deteriorate and sag in the same and/or other areas.Comment
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Re: Sorry Keith, no deal
Jerry, while I was at the Fl meet some of the vendors that specialize in hardtop repair told be if I shipped them my original vinyl they would glue it to their new backing and everyone would be happy. With this information is the reason I am looking for an original undamged head liner. KeithComment
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Re: Here's the 'Boogie'...
67 headliners as least, I dont remember about the others ,are glued onto a paperboard. That board is not glued to the fiberglass.Comment
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Re: Here's the 'Boogie'...
Wayne I agree. I purchased a new replacement headliner (dark green) and it looks perfect. The original liner was not glued anywhere to the fiberglass. You cannot glue the vinyl head liner once it starts to sag. If you try you will be gluing to air and foam deteriorated to dust. The moding ahd frame work around the inner top will hold the liner in place and it is stiff enough not to sag. JRComment
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