F.I. Emblems for '58

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  • David K.
    Expired
    • February 1, 1976
    • 592

    #1

    F.I. Emblems for '58

    A study of the AIM, does not give a demensions on the emblem location. It shows an artist rendering, but that is all. Is there anyone out there that has the exact location to mount them?
  • Richard K.
    Infrequent User
    • October 1, 1991
    • 9

    #2
    Re: F.I. Emblems for '58

    Dave,

    The measurements are from the holes to the edge of the door opening, on the driver's side.

    From the right to the left there will be three (3) holes to hold the FI Emblem. The far right hole is 5-5/16 from the door edge, the center hole is 8-3/4 from the door edge and 4-1/4 above the hole directly below it that is for the fender stainless trim. The furthest hole from the door is 12-5/8.

    These measurements are from my 58'.

    Just rememeber that the emblem is level, do not follow the curve of the fender trim. Hope this is helpful.

    Rich Kintz #20023

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    • David K.
      Expired
      • February 1, 1976
      • 592

      #3
      Re: F.I. Emblems for '58

      Thanks Rich, Got it! Appreciate the help!

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      • John D.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • December 1, 1979
        • 5507

        #4
        Re: F.I. Emblems for '58

        Rich and Dave, Hold up on the emblem installation. Do some more research. I don't believe the emblem is level!!!!!

        Story: My old pal Brian Futo and I were walking around the judging field at the 2000 NCRS national at the Corvette musuem, etc.
        Anyhow old Brian is always testing me to see how dumb I am so here goes.

        He said DeGregory I am really going to put you to the test this time. I said now what Futo. He says that he and I were going to walk around and look at all the 58 to 61 FI cars and look at them with the hoods closed. He said he wanted me to spot the real ones and the fake ones. I said to myself here is a good way to reallly get some browny points with the old coot. (my age). So I picked everyone out and old Brian was amazed. We were looking at the fender FI emblems to see if they were installed at a slight rake. NOT LEVEL. John

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        • David K.
          Expired
          • February 1, 1976
          • 592

          #5
          Re: F.I. Emblems for '58

          John, Good catch. So the next question is how to make them not level.....correctly.

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          • Mike E.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • March 1, 1975
            • 5068

            #6
            Re: F.I. Emblems for '58

            Agree with DeGregory 100%--they were NOT level!!!

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            • John D.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • December 1, 1979
              • 5507

              #7
              Re: F.I. Emblems for '58

              Thanxs Rev Mike. At least I learned something. Actually all thru the years those FI emblems are tricky to install if you are creating a clone so to speak. I see 63-64's with obvious errors also with those emblems. Never paid a whole lot of attention to the 65's emblems though. It is really neat though to look at a Bow Tie fuel car. You learn a lot of little tricks if your eyes are open. Or if you have a good teacher. Old Dale Pearman and I talked about those fender emblems a lot of times. He had a lot of good pics of them. When I told him about Futo and the emblems he said that it was old school. Maybe for him anyhow. Take care, John D.

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              • Ray C.
                Expired
                • July 1, 2001
                • 1124

                #8
                Re: F.I. Emblems for '58

                Hi! John

                We discussed this same topic at 2007 Carlisle, I was looking a 1957 in very rough condition and you asked If I had noticed the emblems, they were level. I did not purchase that project, but did purchase a 1961 315HP car. All signs point to an original fuel car, I am posting a picture of the left emblem for your and others opinions. Would anyone know what information is cast onto the back of original fuel injection emblems, it is very hard to read the information on the ones I have removed?

                Ray #36314




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                • John D.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • December 1, 1979
                  • 5507

                  #9
                  Re: F.I. Emblems for '58

                  Hi Ray, Your car looks very nice. So does the emblem and it's position. Yes it is very hard to read the info on the back side of the FI emblem. On the back side of the top of the "F" there is a very tiny part number or ??? Can't make it out even with a magnifying glass. Looks like some backwards lettering.
                  I didn't know there was a repro of the 58 to 61 emblems. The NOS ones are bringing big bucks now. John

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                  • Loren Smith

                    #10
                    Re: F.I. Emblems for '58

                    It says "General" on top of "Detroit", inside a box, on the backside of the F.

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                    • Ray C.
                      Expired
                      • July 1, 2001
                      • 1124

                      #11
                      Re: F.I. Emblems for '58

                      Thanks! John

                      "General and Detroit" is what I thought it said, but is was very hard to read.

                      Ray

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                      • John D.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • December 1, 1979
                        • 5507

                        #12
                        Re: F.I. Emblems for '58

                        Loren, Last night I was looking very closely at the NOS emblem in front of the screen here and I did see the word General but could not make out the Dee troit as it's very very small. Now if I would have used my micro I could have read it. Thanks, John

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                        • Ray C.
                          Expired
                          • July 1, 2001
                          • 1124

                          #13
                          Re: F.I. Emblems for '58

                          Digital picture of the back of the FI Emblem
                          in the close-up mode.

                          Ray




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                          • John D.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • December 1, 1979
                            • 5507

                            #14
                            Re: F.I. Emblems for '58

                            Ray, Nice pic. I wasn't smart enough to figure out that roit was detroit. General Detroit. Typical repros of various emblems are easy to spot just by looking at them from a top view.
                            For example repro 63-64 FI side fender emblems look quite nice from the side. Individuals study the thickness of t's etc but that is a waste of time.
                            Just look at the emblem from a top view and you will see that the originals have a parting edge.(up against the fender) A raised edge, etc. Not perfectly flat across the top. Easy to spot. When you only have minutes to judge exterior you can quickly scan emblems in seconds this way rather than study them from the side. The repros are very pretty though.
                            This 58 to 61 emblem really has a lot of flashing or a sharp parting edge to it. I don't know if a repro is available but when it is I believe in most cases it would be easy to spot. Course we need good reproductions and shouldn't knock them as this stuff is drying up. John D.

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