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  • Larry M.
    Expired
    • December 1, 1986
    • 541

    #16
    Re: D309R brown dist cap . whats it correct for??

    My recollection, at least a quarter century old at this point, is that the 309's had copper terminal contacts, instead of the aluminum (or otherwise white metal) found in the 308's. I recall the copper was for high-performance applications, providing better electrical conductivity, and therefore a stronger spark. Does your 309 match my description, or prove me to be in the beginning stages of feeble-mindedness?
    Larry Maher, #10731

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 43193

      #17
      Re: D309R brown dist cap . whats it correct for??

      Larry-----

      You're correct. The 309, either plain 309 or 309R, used copper contacts. The 308, either plain 308 or 308R, used the aluminum contacts. The two cap series were functionally interchangeable.

      The thing to keep in mind with these things is that the 308, 308R, 309, and 309R are DELCO part system numbers. These numbers are APPLICATION specific and not necessarily PART specific. They remain the same over many years. Some of those Delco part numbers had 2 or more successive GM "long" numbers associated with them. The 308R, for instance, has had at least 4 GM long numbers associated with it. Each time the GM "long number" changes, the part changes. But, it still carries the same Delco application-specific part number.

      So, if one finds a Delco cap out of a box, one MAY be able to identify it as, say, a 308R. Further identifying it as to WHICH 308R it is constitutes another matter.

      One more thing: often times when folks see a dark brown cap with the characteristic Delco-Remy script, copper contacts and an "R", they conclude that the cap is a 309R. Not necessarily, though. There were several other Delco caps that used dark brown alkyd material and copper contacts which were NOT 309R. I've seen folks make this mistake on eBay MANY times and pay foolish amounts for caps for obscure applications that make them near worthless. In fact, sometimes I've seen them pay an amount that would have been foolish if the cap actaully WAS a 309R. But, as P.T. Barnum once said............
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Jack H.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • April 1, 1990
        • 9906

        #18
        Interesting....

        because I've laid several "R" and non-R DR caps on my digi-bridge impedance tester and have observed NO significant difference in reading....

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        • Dale Pearman

          #19
          My Understanding

          is that minor dimensional differences were incorporated in "R" caps for use with "resistor" plugs.

          Dale.

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          • Terry M.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • September 30, 1980
            • 15573

            #20
            Terry

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            • Clem Z.
              Expired
              • January 1, 2006
              • 9427

              #21
              contactor resistance?

              what value of resistance do you see? the reason i ask is because the stock GM HEI center contactor which is a seperate piece has about 6 ohms resistance and if you do not use one made from solid copper with a hi voltage coil you will melt the cap where the contactor comes through the cap top because the contactor overheats.

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              • Clem Z.
                Expired
                • January 1, 2006
                • 9427

                #22

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                • Mark Ring

                  #23

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                  • Clem Z.
                    Expired
                    • January 1, 2006
                    • 9427

                    #24

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                    • Terry M.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • September 30, 1980
                      • 15573

                      #25
                      Terry

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