C1 Window Post Weatherstrip Clips

[Bob Malone #35242]

When I bought new weatherstrip for the doors, it came with six metal clips, six screws and six wire clips that appear to be either springs or staples to attach it to the window posts. In looking at the AIM, it does not show anything except the metal clips which I assume stab into the rubber and then get screwed into the window posts. My question is first, is that a good assumption and second, what are the wire staples/springs for? How do they get used?

Does anyone have any detail on attaching the weatherstip to the window posts?

Thanks,
Bob

[Ed Jennings]

Re: C1 Window Post Weatherstrip Clips

Bob, on my 62, the clips did stick into the rubber as you suggest. I'm not sure about springs, perhaps you are refering to the spring clips that hold the auxillary w/s?

[Bob Malone #35242]

Re: C1 Window Post Weatherstrip Clips

Ed,
I just went back and looked at the AIM. The auxilliary weatherstrip has two push in clips with black thumbtack looking heads for them. That plus the yellow cement holds it on. There is no reference to the wires anywhere. In fiddlin' with the main weatherstrip clips, I'm thinking that maybe the wires penetrate the weatherstrip on the window posts and the flat metal clips go between the window posts and weatherstrip and interlock with the wires in such way as to create tension to hold them tight against the window posts.
I can't see any other way to use them.
Anyone else have any ideas?

[Ed Jennings]

Re: C1 Window Post Weatherstrip Clips

What year is your car, Bob? There are some differences in the w/s attachment from year to year.

[John M.]

Re: C1 Window Post Weatherstrip Clips

Bob, the little wire clips insert into the weatherstrip and the top of the wire clip is captured by the little oblong slot in the weatherstrip clips. This is intended to replicate the original W/S which had a wire molded into the length of it and bumped out at the places where the clips went, which was then captured in the slot of the clip. I hope that I have made this clear, but if not, let me know and I will take a pic of the detail when I get home tonight and send it to you. John

[Bob Malone #35242]

Re: C1 Window Post Weatherstrip Clips

Ed, the car is a '60.
John, that makes perfect sense. Thanks for explaining it. I appreciate your help.
Bob

[John M.]

Re: C1 Window Post Weatherstrip Clips

Bob, just pay close attention to the proper sequence of clips in the AIM. different years used different configurations and sequences of the clips. John

[Bob Malone #35242]

Re: C1 Window Post Weatherstrip Clips

John, If I understand the pictorial in the AIM, the small clip without a wire goes at the very top of the door posts, then the two symetical clips/wires in the center and the offset clip/wire at the bottom.
I also have one other problem. I don't have holes in the door posts where the clips are supposed to be. I'm hoping I can "carefully" drill and tap the posts to accommodate the clip screws. Unfortunately, I already have the windows and posts installed with the window felt channel in place.
I believe the AIM also states that cement is used in addition to the clips. Do you concur and is there other advise you can offer?

[John M.]

Re: C1 Window Post Weatherstrip Clips

Bob, I am operating trom memory here so It is not the gospel, but on 60 cars I do not belive that the little top clip is used, Then you have the two of the symetrical clips with wire clips, and then the non-symetrical clip with wire clip which should be offset to the bottom of the door. I will look when I get home and verify. That is really strange about no holes, as all cars used clips.
Maybe they were just plated over. Look real carefully and you may be able to see where the holes were and be able to re drill them. I have had to re-tap holes on replated posts that had partially closed up. Yes, You need to glue the WS in addition to the clips. Let me know if you need me to measure the location of the clip holes, and I will send them to you tonight. John

[Bob Malone #35242]

Re: C1 Window Post Weatherstrip Clips

Thanks John. I would appreciate getting the measurements at your convenience. One more question. Does the cement dry quickly or will I need to find some way to hold the rubber in place until it dries?

[John M.]

Re: C1 Window Post Weatherstrip Clips

Bob, the distance down to the first hole from the inside top edge of the post is 3 3/4", the second measures 7 3/4" from the same point and the bottom hole measures 3/4" up from the bottom edge. All holes were 3/8" in from the inside edge.
I have an eary 60 and a late 59 and neither car used the top clip originally. The 59 had a tappped hole on the post for it but none was used, and the 60 did not even have a complete hole. My guess is that the top clip was only used on older style W/S which did not have the top window seal integrated into the W/S, and was necessary to secure the end of the W/S.
You can use standard weatherstrip adhesive from a tube and spread it around with a small brush like a disposable acid brush. coat both the door and the W/S, and allow to sit for a couple of minutes to tack. Then stick the W/S on in the right position, and come back in a couple more minutes and press it back down again. after 15 minutes or so it will be well bonded. A word of warning though. it attacks lacquer paint almost instantly, so be careful not to drag it over finished surfaces. Good luck, and don't hesitate to email me if you need more info. John

[Mark Malone]

Re: C1 Window Post Weatherstrip Clips

Guys,

While you're on the subject, I have an early 59 (March) but when I received my weatherstrip set I have the later set which is indicating a different aux door strip. What is the difference between the early and late aux weatherstrip?

Thanks, Mark.