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I want to start a discussion about the possibility of a judging rules change with regard to how we view/judge service replacement (CE) engines. I believe that a Corvette (or any car) that has a factory authorized service replacement engine has some historical significance in that configuration.
I propose that we adjust our point deductions for service replacement engines make it a "more than minimum but less than maximum" deduction. I don't have a clear idea in my mind yet about how much of a deduction.
A correct front pad/casting number/casting date gets full credit (350 points). A correct casting number/casting date but incorrect front pad gets a 175 point deduction (if memory serves). It is possible that an original engine loses its numbers during a rebuild if the engine has to be decked, so this deduction seems appropriate to me.
What I am suggesting is that, if a car shows up with an incorrect front pad, incorrect casting date, and incorrect casting number, then we examine the possibility that it may be a warranty engine. Now we have to determine what the warranty period for that car was (12 months / 12,000 miles, etc.). If the particulars of this engine (casting numbers/date, CE stamp, etc.) fall within that warranty period, we treat it as a warranty service replacement engine. And we standardize the point deduction that occurs for this situation. Perhaps something like a 200 point deduction (out of 350). The same sort of standardized point deduction would also be applied to heads, intake, exhaust manifolds, etc. if the entire engine was replaced (as opposed to just the short block).
Hopefully, this would encourage people not to remove warranty replacement engines and replace them with "correct number" engines. It would also help to preserve this aspect of that Corvette's history.
I have a friend that has a 69 small block car. The car's build date is August of 69. It has a CE engine in it dated September of 69. The original owner of the car was the manager of the service department at the local Chevy dealer in 1969. The car currently has 40K original miles on it. My friend is talking about finding a correct engine for this car. I don't want him to mess with it, but current NCRS rules make it tempting for him to replace this engine. We will lose a part of that car's history if this happens.
I know, it is a long way around the barn. What do ya'll think about this idea? Any thoughts on what "standardized" point deductions would be appropriate in this case?
I propose that we adjust our point deductions for service replacement engines make it a "more than minimum but less than maximum" deduction. I don't have a clear idea in my mind yet about how much of a deduction.
A correct front pad/casting number/casting date gets full credit (350 points). A correct casting number/casting date but incorrect front pad gets a 175 point deduction (if memory serves). It is possible that an original engine loses its numbers during a rebuild if the engine has to be decked, so this deduction seems appropriate to me.
What I am suggesting is that, if a car shows up with an incorrect front pad, incorrect casting date, and incorrect casting number, then we examine the possibility that it may be a warranty engine. Now we have to determine what the warranty period for that car was (12 months / 12,000 miles, etc.). If the particulars of this engine (casting numbers/date, CE stamp, etc.) fall within that warranty period, we treat it as a warranty service replacement engine. And we standardize the point deduction that occurs for this situation. Perhaps something like a 200 point deduction (out of 350). The same sort of standardized point deduction would also be applied to heads, intake, exhaust manifolds, etc. if the entire engine was replaced (as opposed to just the short block).
Hopefully, this would encourage people not to remove warranty replacement engines and replace them with "correct number" engines. It would also help to preserve this aspect of that Corvette's history.
I have a friend that has a 69 small block car. The car's build date is August of 69. It has a CE engine in it dated September of 69. The original owner of the car was the manager of the service department at the local Chevy dealer in 1969. The car currently has 40K original miles on it. My friend is talking about finding a correct engine for this car. I don't want him to mess with it, but current NCRS rules make it tempting for him to replace this engine. We will lose a part of that car's history if this happens.
I know, it is a long way around the barn. What do ya'll think about this idea? Any thoughts on what "standardized" point deductions would be appropriate in this case?
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