How do I tell if a car is a early or a late built car. The car in question is in the 24000's. What is the cut off between the two?
Thanks Ron
Thanks Ron
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Re: 69 early...late build ???
My new 69 conv. #33956 was deleivered to me in late Oct. of 69. The retail price was $5037.65 WOW. If any one has this car they can have the orginal window sticker. john -
Re: 69 early...late build ???
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I don't think that there's really any precise definition of "early" and "late". However, consider this: a 24,000 VIN numbered car would have been built in July, 1969. During most model years, this would have been just about the end of production. However, 1969 model year Corvette production went through December, 1969. So, I'd say that a car built in July would qualify as a "late-build" even by 1969 Corvette standards.In Appreciation of John HinckleyComment
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Re: 69 early...late build ???
Generally, early-late refers to specific components. Whether a car was built before or after a specific running change. I guess in theory a car could be "early" in regard to one item and "late" in regard to another.Comment
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Right On!
It's not an issue of early/late, it's an issue of what part, component or aspect of the car you're talking about. Most of the judging guides use the terms 'early' and 'late' generically to distinguish between components before and after a running change. Sometimes they even go on to define 'early' and 'late' in the specific text relating to the item in question. But, unfortunately, other times they do not pin point the definition.....
As a rule of thumb (works to a high degree, but isn't guaranteed to work all the time), take your AIM, flip to the page where the part in question is called out, and review the ECR (Engineering Change Request) block that's on the drawing. It FREQUENTLY gives an AIM date associated with the part change.
This puts you in the 'ballpark' for what's meant by early/late on this specific item.... But, this method isn't foolproof for a couple of reasons.
(1) Sometimes the change wasn't recorded at all (they didn't update the AIM--they only updated the Bill of Materials).
(2) Sometimes the AIM didn't get updated until it's next issue (the AIM for the year after your car).
(3) The AIM doesn't say what level of effectivity was associated with the change (do it NOW and scrap everything, phase it in to minimize inventory obsolenence, make it effective when cost impact is below $XXXX, and so on). So, if could be weeks or months later that a given change was actually implemented and there may be a period where cars were built/shipped with either part....Comment
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Thanks alot guys, I will snoope in the AIM a little more. I made an error on the VIN its 22400's. A month earlier! If anybody else has something to add, it would really be welcomed. I am checking this for the Rad shroud/support seals, Alt and PS Pump brackets and brace, Wiper Actuator Seal and a few others. The car is a 427/400 Auto PS PB no air coupe
Thanks again RonComment
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Re: 69 early...late build ???
Hi everybody,
I got the same problem. My Corvette has VIN# 12048 and was built on January 2nd 1969. I would like to order the radiator sealings and the carpet. On both items I have to make the decision early / late. By the way, what is correct?
Klaus Friedrich
Corvette Freunde Bodensee / GermanyComment
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Re: 69 early...late build ???
Radiator sealings are "Late" on your car Dec 12/68-. Thanks to the handy dandy Doc Rebuild catalogComment
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Re: 69 early...late build ???
I have #007XX, a Corvette Bronze L89 cvt, now this one is an early car!!Comment
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Re: 69 early...late build ???
For folks that didn't notice, in Ron's original question he did not ask for early or late build information WITH RESPECT TO CERTAIN COMPONENTS. He simply asked whether a car serialized about 24,000 could be considered "early" or "late". Obviously, if the question were framed in the context of A CERTAIN COMPONENT, the answer would be different. But, that's NOT what was asked.
One more thing: personally, I consider thread titles, especially responsive thread titles, that embody "taunting" or "provocative" text to be UTTERLY RUDE. Absolutely. Positively.In Appreciation of John HinckleyComment
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Interesting, I have a 427/390 Vin 24268 with 6/21/69 on the build sheet. It is a coupe, 4spd. a/c, ps, pb and alarm system. When replacing the brake lines the short one left front was of 1970 design and of course the master cylinder lines were also different. The passenger side skirt has a flap at the bottom rather that the rubber as shown in the assembly manual. A shield for the a/c hoses isn't there either and no evidence of mounting holes in the skirt.Comment
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Interesting, I have a 427/390 Vin 24268 with 6/21/69 on the build sheet. It is a coupe, 4spd. a/c, ps, pb and alarm system. When replacing the brake lines the short one left front was of 1970 design and of course the master cylinder lines were also different. The passenger side skirt has a flap at the bottom rather that the rubber as shown in the assembly manual. A shield for the a/c hoses isn't there either and no evidence of mounting holes in the skirt.Comment
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