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  • Christopher R.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • March 31, 1975
    • 1599

    '62 Fuel Pump Replacement

    I've done a lot of work over the Winter to get my '62 ready for this Summer. One of the things I did was to replace the fuel pump with a mostly correct AC 4656. Got the engine running last weekend. When I went to start it today, the fan caused some fuel that had pooled on the top of the pump to splash around the engine compartment. Jeez that scares the hell out of me. I hate it when gasoline sprays around the engine compartment! Now I'm trying to decide how to fix this.

    This is classic. This is how most of my projects go on this car. I fix or replace many items, and then I need to go back and redo it when one of them screws up. The one that screws up is usually the one that didn't need fixing in the first place. It was only "fixed" because of something else. The original project was to change the carb and to replace the rubber fuel line hoses with solid line. What the hey, while there might as well replace the generic pump with the right one so I can use the right fuel lines.

    Fuel seems to be seeping out of the 2 little holes on the top of the pump when the engine is shut off. It then collects in the recesses of the pump. It didn't leak for the 20 minutes I ran the engine. It only leaked a little after I shut the engine off. After I wiped up he little fuel that did escape the second time, it didn't leak in the hour or so afterwards.

    The fuel pump is an Ebay special. It was advertised and appears to be a rebuilt AC. It came in a box that had no markings other than "4656." It has "AC" on the top and bottom, but there is no stamping on the engine block mounting flange. The inlet and outlet were in the correct 4656 positions. (This is why I said mostly correct.)

    I forget how I replaced the pump, but I remember it was horrible. Questions:

    1. I know the pump is judged for the "AC" markings on the top and bottom, but is the "4656" judged? I don't see how any judge could see it.

    2. What do those 2 little holes do? I would think that they are air relief/vent holes to allow the diaphragm to do its work. I'm thinking that these holes vent into the upper part of the fuel pump chamber. I'm also thinking that gasoline is supposed to stay under that diaphragm in the lower portion of that chamber. If gas is coming out of those 2 little holes, does that mean the diaphragm is leaking?

    3. Any helpful hints on how to replace this pump?
  • Ed Jennings

    #2
    Re: '62 Fuel Pump Replacement

    I think your assessment of the problem is dead on. As to changing it, it's a bitch. You need to have something handy to plug the line from the fuel tank when you disconnect it. Otherwise it could siphon the whole tank out on the floor. When replacing, I guess you already know about the bolt in the front of the engine that will hold the pushrod out of the way.

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    • Ed Jennings

      #3
      Re: '62 Fuel Pump Replacement

      I think your assessment of the problem is dead on. As to changing it, it's a bitch. You need to have something handy to plug the line from the fuel tank when you disconnect it. Otherwise it could siphon the whole tank out on the floor. When replacing, I guess you already know about the bolt in the front of the engine that will hold the pushrod out of the way.

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      • Greg Vaka

        #4
        Re: '62 Fuel Pump Replacement

        Tell us more about this pushrod bolt. Is it also on the 283 & 265 cu. in. engines?

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        • Greg Vaka

          #5
          Re: '62 Fuel Pump Replacement

          Tell us more about this pushrod bolt. Is it also on the 283 & 265 cu. in. engines?

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          • Ed Jennings

            #6
            Re: '62 Fuel Pump Replacement

            Greg, there is a short 3/8" (9/16 head) bolt located on the front of the engine which protrudes into the fuel pump cavity. It is present on all gen 1 small blocks as far as I know. Never changed the fuel pump on a BB, so I don't know about them, but I suspect they have the same arrangement. Anyway, you can remove this short bolt and substitute a little longer one. After you push the pushrod back against the cam you can tighten this bolt lightly against the pushrod and it will hold it in place while you install the pump. When you are finished, remove the longer bolt and replace the short one with a little thread sealer. It's a lot a lot easier and cleaner than using grease to hold the pushrod in place, though that will work too.

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            • Ed Jennings

              #7
              Re: '62 Fuel Pump Replacement

              Greg, there is a short 3/8" (9/16 head) bolt located on the front of the engine which protrudes into the fuel pump cavity. It is present on all gen 1 small blocks as far as I know. Never changed the fuel pump on a BB, so I don't know about them, but I suspect they have the same arrangement. Anyway, you can remove this short bolt and substitute a little longer one. After you push the pushrod back against the cam you can tighten this bolt lightly against the pushrod and it will hold it in place while you install the pump. When you are finished, remove the longer bolt and replace the short one with a little thread sealer. It's a lot a lot easier and cleaner than using grease to hold the pushrod in place, though that will work too.

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              • Jack layton #896

                #8
                Re: '62 Fuel Pump Replacement

                Don't forget to spin the motor so the low side of the fuel pump eccentric allows the rod to be pushed up into the engine. Also, the fuel line is rubber and can be "pinched" with a clamp or locking wrench during the short time needed to do the pump. Need a rebuilt pump? Check with Arthur Gould. 631-754-5010 He might have one on the shelf. His are guaranteed - e-bay pumps are ???.

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                • Jack layton #896

                  #9
                  Re: '62 Fuel Pump Replacement

                  Don't forget to spin the motor so the low side of the fuel pump eccentric allows the rod to be pushed up into the engine. Also, the fuel line is rubber and can be "pinched" with a clamp or locking wrench during the short time needed to do the pump. Need a rebuilt pump? Check with Arthur Gould. 631-754-5010 He might have one on the shelf. His are guaranteed - e-bay pumps are ???.

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                  • James F.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • December 1, 1985
                    • 596

                    #10
                    Re: '62 Fuel Pump Replacement

                    Chris,
                    Yes to both questions #1 & #2. Judges spend time with a mirror looking for the 4656. Fuel should not ever be up in the upper houxing, the vent holes only here to equalize pressure differences created by the diaphram. Were it mine, I have it rebuilt. Regards,

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                    • James F.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • December 1, 1985
                      • 596

                      #11
                      Re: '62 Fuel Pump Replacement

                      Chris,
                      Yes to both questions #1 & #2. Judges spend time with a mirror looking for the 4656. Fuel should not ever be up in the upper houxing, the vent holes only here to equalize pressure differences created by the diaphram. Were it mine, I have it rebuilt. Regards,

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                      • Dale Pearman

                        #12
                        Re: '62 Fuel Pump Replacement

                        If this pump was in a white box with only, "4656" printed on it then it came from the guy that supplies Paul Baker at Goat Hill. Paul hammers a 4656 on the flange and sells them. You've got a bad valve in the fuel pump that allows pressurized fuel to enter the chamber that's supposed to be held at atmospheric pressure. It then leaks out the two vent holes.

                        I'd toss it and buy a restored original 4656. eBay is a sucker's paradise.

                        Dale.

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                        • Dale Pearman

                          #13
                          Re: '62 Fuel Pump Replacement

                          If this pump was in a white box with only, "4656" printed on it then it came from the guy that supplies Paul Baker at Goat Hill. Paul hammers a 4656 on the flange and sells them. You've got a bad valve in the fuel pump that allows pressurized fuel to enter the chamber that's supposed to be held at atmospheric pressure. It then leaks out the two vent holes.

                          I'd toss it and buy a restored original 4656. eBay is a sucker's paradise.

                          Dale.

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                          • Christopher R.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • March 31, 1975
                            • 1599

                            #14
                            Re: '62 Fuel Pump Replacement

                            Wow! You do know everything about these cars. That's exactly what the box looks like. The "4656", though, wasn't stamped on the flange. The flange has no markings.

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                            • Christopher R.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • March 31, 1975
                              • 1599

                              #15
                              Re: '62 Fuel Pump Replacement

                              Wow! You do know everything about these cars. That's exactly what the box looks like. The "4656", though, wasn't stamped on the flange. The flange has no markings.

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