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  • Gary R.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 1, 1989
    • 1796

    1/2 Shafts

    Hi guys.................Last week at Carlisle I was asked about the stock 1/2 shafts used on the cars from 63-79. There was a concern the 2.5" shafts are weak compared to the 3" shafts. I had a 2.5 shaft cut in 1/2 but didn't get to cut a 3" in half until today when I found a junk one.The 2.5" have a .125 wall & the 3" have a 095 wall. Be aware some aftermarket shafts being sold today use thinner walls. I have not seen any GM shafts fail but that doesn't mean they haven't. I have seen broken u-joints and recently sheared solid u-joints. For comparison the shafts I use on cars with power are .134 wall 3.5" shafts sold by Tom's.


  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43193

    #2
    Re: 1/2 Shafts

    Originally posted by Gary Ramadei (14833)
    Hi guys.................Last week at Carlisle I was asked about the stock 1/2 shafts used on the cars from 63-79. There was a concern the 2.5" shafts are weak compared to the 3" shafts. I had a 2.5 shaft cut in 1/2 but didn't get to cut a 3" in half until today when I found a junk one.The 2.5" have a .125 wall & the 3" have a 095 wall. Be aware some aftermarket shafts being sold today use thinner walls. I have not seen any GM shafts fail but that doesn't mean they haven't. I have seen broken u-joints and recently sheared solid u-joints. For comparison the shafts I use on cars with power are .134 wall 3.5" shafts sold by Tom's.




    Gary-------


    Yes, sometimes you will see the 3" half shafts advertised as "heavy duty". I've been telling folks for a long time that they're not "heavy duty" because the tube wall thickness is thinner, just as you've proved here.

    I don't know why GM went to these 3" shafts in 1975. However, I do think the manufacturer changed and that may have been the reason. I think the 2-1/2" shafts were of GM internal manufacture. I think the 3" were manufactured by Dana-Spicer. Maybe GM wanted to get out of the business of manufacturing these half shafts for a low volume application like Corvette. About the same time they replaced the axle u-joint flanges, which I believe were originally of GM manufacture, with the Dana-Spicer manufactured flanges.

    GM did replace the 2-1/2" shafts with the 3" for 1963-74 SERVICE in October, 1976. So, apparently, they considered them equally strong.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Gene M.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 1, 1985
      • 4232

      #3
      Re: 1/2 Shafts

      Resistance to rotational twist is a function of diameter as well as cross section. Increasing the diameter increases the cross section. I guess GM felt the diameter increase to 3" justified the wall section decrease to 3/16". One needs to do the math to confirm or dispute GM's decision.

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      • Louis T.
        Very Frequent User
        • July 31, 2003
        • 282

        #4
        Re: 1/2 Shafts

        Hi Gene,

        Did you mean 3/32 (0.09375)? (That's more in line to what Gary measured.)

        Save the wave!

        Louis

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        • Louis T.
          Very Frequent User
          • July 31, 2003
          • 282

          #5
          Re: 1/2 Shafts

          Hi Gary,

          Thanks for the great seminar at Carlisle - as always, lots of excellent information!

          Save the wave!

          Louis

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          • Gene M.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • April 1, 1985
            • 4232

            #6
            Re: 1/2 Shafts

            Originally posted by Louis Trohatos (40341)
            Hi Gene,

            Did you mean 3/32 (0.09375)? (That's more in line to what Gary measured.)

            Save the wave!

            Louis
            Louis,
            Correcto, I must of had a brain fart. thanks for the correction.

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            • Gary R.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • April 1, 1989
              • 1796

              #7
              Re: 1/2 Shafts

              Hi Louis...... I'm glad you enjoyed the seminar at Carlisle. I really enjoy them as well too bad I can't get into the detail I do when someone stops in here. I can break down their work with them so they can see what it's all about.

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