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  • Ron N.
    Expired
    • August 18, 2008
    • 243

    Reverse lock out problem



    Recently I started having difficulty shifting into reverse (67 / 327 / 4 speed). After 4 or 5 tries I can finally get it in reverse.








    Any help / advise is appreciated.

    Ron


  • Domenic T.
    Expired
    • January 29, 2010
    • 2452

    #2
    Re: Reverse lock out problem

    Ron,
    Sounds like the linkage needs adjusting which is in the manual. You can make the tool they describe. I would remove the rod again and try shifting into reverse. That would rule out a rod problem.

    Dom

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    • Ron N.
      Expired
      • August 18, 2008
      • 243

      #3
      Re: Reverse lock out problem

      Good idea to remove the rod and try reverse. i'm going to they that first.

      Thanks Dom.

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      • Donald O.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • May 31, 1990
        • 1580

        #4
        Re: Reverse lock out problem

        Ron,
        Usually when the rod goes bad it is worn smaller. This can lead to being able to shift into reverse without lifting up the Tee. Not a good thing when you have to downshift in traffic, luckily I caught it before letting out the clutch to compound the negative event.
        DonO
        The light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

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        • Ron N.
          Expired
          • August 18, 2008
          • 243

          #5
          Re: Reverse lock out problem

          Dom, I checked without the rod and was able to shift into reverse. The rod is loosely connected to the T-handle. I can move it up and down about .5". How should the rod be connected to the T-handle? I read in one older post that the rod is welded. Do you know if that the way it should be connected?

          Ron

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          • Donald O.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • May 31, 1990
            • 1580

            #6
            Re: Reverse lock out problem

            Originally posted by Ron Napoliello (49346)
            Dom, I checked without the rod and was able to shift into reverse. The rod is loosely connected to the T-handle. I can move it up and down about .5". How should the rod be connected to the T-handle? I read in one older post that the rod is welded. Do you know if that the way it should be connected?

            Ron




            Hopefully you will see how the tip of the LO rod is crimped to prevent much movement. That rod & handle are my originals to my 67.
            If you are getting 0.5" of movement, you shouldn't be.

            DonO

            PS
            I hate trying to get really detailed pix with this stupid iphone.
            The light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

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            • Ron N.
              Expired
              • August 18, 2008
              • 243

              #7
              Re: Reverse lock out problem

              I am, hopefully, going to bother you only one more time with my problem. Your pix helped and I think I am very close to the final cause and solution that I wanted to bounce off you.

              Attached are pix of my original T-handle and rod. It also has a crimp on the end as you can see. However, as gown in the 3rd pix the crimp does not seen to be holding because the rod slips down (not out) from the T-handle connection. I thing that slipage does not allow the rod to move the pin and open the gate. If I



              re-crimp the end of the rod it will stop the slippage. IMG_0480.jpgIMG_0482.jpgDoes that male sense to you?





              IMG_0483.jpg

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              • Donald O.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • May 31, 1990
                • 1580

                #8
                Re: Reverse lock out problem

                Ron,
                I think I understand your problem....
                IF the crimped part of the rod goes down through the handle opening, find out if the crimp has gotten smaller or if the hole has become enlarged. If is the hole getting bigger, replace the handle and rod as an assembly. If its the crimp getting smaller, recrimping it wider may reduce structural integrity. If you have a good magnifier (or even better a jeweler's loupe) look to see if the wide out crimped ears edges have mushroomed to make the crimp narrower.
                As an option to recrimping, can you braze it to widen it without chrome blue-ing. That is if you have access to an Oxy/cet torch, or even a hobbist's mini torch that the crack smokers like (and probably not sold any more for that reason).
                The worst that can happen is that the repair of the rod doesn't work and you buy a new handle with rod for a 1967, and not while driving.

                DonO

                Paragon p/n 101 $26.00 for rod and new handle.
                The light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

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                • Ron N.
                  Expired
                  • August 18, 2008
                  • 243

                  #9
                  Re: Reverse lock out problem

                  Thanks for help. I now know what to do to correct the problem.

                  Ron

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                  • John H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • December 1, 1997
                    • 16513

                    #10
                    Re: Reverse lock out problem

                    Originally posted by Ron Napoliello (49346)
                    Thanks for help. I now know what to do to correct the problem.

                    Ron
                    Ron -

                    Here's what the shifter looks like at the bottom end of the reverse lockout rod; shortening the rod will provide more clearance to the inhibitor pin.


                    RevLockoutPin1 [800x600].JPG

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                    • Ron N.
                      Expired
                      • August 18, 2008
                      • 243

                      #11
                      Re: Reverse lock out problem

                      In searching the forum I found your old post with the above PIX of of the bottom end of the shifter. That post/PIX provided me with a good understanding of how the reverse lock-out works and allowed me to focus on the cause of my problem.

                      I like you suggestion to shorten the rod. It's the easiest way for me to resolve the problem.

                      Thanks John.

                      Ron

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