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  • Robert G.
    Expired
    • May 31, 1990
    • 429

    67 P-O-P question

    I see the auction for this car will be ending in a few hours.


    The POP shows the JE code for a 435 but the axle code shows AN for a small block. Would anyone care to comment about this? Are there known errors like that?
  • John D.
    Very Frequent User
    • June 30, 1991
    • 874

    #2
    Re: 67 P-O-P question

    FWIW the assly date code on the transmission doesn't match the one on the POP either..

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    • Wayne M.
      Expired
      • March 1, 1980
      • 6414

      #3
      Re: 67 P-O-P question

      Originally posted by John Daly (19684)
      FWIW the assly date code on the transmission doesn't match the one on the POP either..

      Sharp eyes, John: on the POP for the trans, I get P7P15, rather than P7S11 (stamped).

      Here's a blow-up and flip so others can see.

      Robert G. --- Yes, the POP should be AZ stamping for a 3.55 ratio on a 427. I didn't see any picture(s) of the differential carrier or its stamping (unless I missed it). Maybe the factory installed a 3.55 small block diff (AN stamp); it would still connect (U-bolts) and work OK.
      Attached Files

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      • Donald A.
        Expired
        • March 1, 1987
        • 243

        #4
        Re: 67 P-O-P question

        FWIW a quick search, such as here http://www.sportscardigest.com/leake...tion-report/2/ shows this car sold at auction in 2013 for 84.7K and had NO documentation - no protect-o-plate, no tank sticker etc. Just info for your consideration...

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        • Patrick B.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • August 31, 1985
          • 1986

          #5
          Re: 67 P-O-P question

          Well, I see it sold for $150k on Ebay. The recently acquired documention proved valuable. The 2013 auction report said it had mediocre paint but the paint in the Ebay photos looked good.

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          • Donald A.
            Expired
            • March 1, 1987
            • 243

            #6
            Re: 67 P-O-P question

            Originally posted by Patrick Boyd (9110)
            Well, I see it sold for $150k on Ebay. The recently acquired documention proved valuable. The 2013 auction report said it had mediocre paint but the paint in the Ebay photos looked good.
            Yes, the winning bidder has zero feedback, and only bidding history is for that Corvette. Hmmm.

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            • Steve B.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • March 1, 2002
              • 1190

              #7
              Re: 67 P-O-P question

              That car would be the buy of the century if it were real.

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              • Robert G.
                Expired
                • May 31, 1990
                • 429

                #8
                Re: 67 P-O-P question

                Originally posted by Steve Bramati (37512)
                That car would be the buy of the century if it were real.
                Amazing, the window sticker is fake, the tank sticker looks bad, the car is on another website with a different trim tag, problems with the POP. He says it's a factory delete soft top but the tank sticker shows a std black top.
                Attached Files

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                • Steve B.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • March 1, 2002
                  • 1190

                  #9
                  Re: 67 P-O-P question

                  I'm sure that another version of the paperwork will surface with the claim to be real. If it first you don't succeed, try try again LOL.

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                  • Gene M.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • April 1, 1985
                    • 4232

                    #10
                    Re: 67 P-O-P question

                    surprise, surprise, surprise, another fabricated 435 black/black convertible with pipes. They will practice over and over with the documentation till it sells!

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                    • Jim D.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • June 30, 1985
                      • 2882

                      #11
                      Re: 67 P-O-P question

                      Originally posted by Patrick Boyd (9110)
                      The recently CREATED documention proved valuable.
                      I fixed it for you.

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                      • Roy S.
                        Past National Judging Chairman
                        • July 31, 1979
                        • 1022

                        #12
                        Re: 67 P-O-P question

                        Guys,
                        Let’s do something for the hobby/society here. When you post a piece like this always include the VIN number in your post at the end or a searchable VIN sequence like one of the following for this vehicle:

                        194677S103862 or 67-03862 or 7S103862

                        That will allow this discussion to forever be found by the current search engines and anyone researching the car with a little effort can find the truth.

                        For the record this is a known fake, judged in NCRS before the “branded counterfeit” nomenclature was adopted. Initial trim tag on the vehicle was GM issued but 25 plus days too early. The builder of this car just happens to be one of less than three individuals who were permanently removed from NCRS for practices detrimental to the hobby.

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                        • Ara G.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • January 31, 2008
                          • 1108

                          #13
                          Re: 67 P-O-P question

                          Originally posted by Roy Sinor (2608)
                          Guys,
                          Let’s do something for the hobby/society here. When you post a piece like this always include the VIN number in your post at the end or a searchable VIN sequence like one of the following for this vehicle:

                          194677S103862 or 67-03862 or 7S103862

                          That will allow this discussion to forever be found by the current search engines and anyone researching the car with a little effort can find the truth.

                          For the record this is a known fake, judged in NCRS before the “branded counterfeit” nomenclature was adopted. Initial trim tag on the vehicle was GM issued but 25 plus days too early. The builder of this car just happens to be one of less than three individuals who were permanently removed from NCRS for practices detrimental to the hobby.
                          and there you have it folks....Thanks for the input Roy.

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                          • Dan D.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • September 5, 2013
                            • 181

                            #14
                            Re: 67 P-O-P question

                            I don't know what the legal implications would be, but could there be any consideration of posting the V.I.Ns of any "counterfeit" cars to a central location that could be accessed. Maybe one already exists.

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                            • Roy S.
                              Past National Judging Chairman
                              • July 31, 1979
                              • 1022

                              #15
                              Re: 67 P-O-P question

                              I would doubt there is a way to do that without potential legal implications.

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